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jaybuni 12-19-2007 09:45 AM

What rims are these?
 
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Hi Folks,


Please can someone tell me what rims these are and where to source them?

Also are these 18s or 19s?


Thanks to all.


Regards


Sy

cobalt 12-19-2007 10:11 AM

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They are a speedline 3.6 Turbo Clone. Most likely made by RH or some other manufacturer.

The speedlines were only offered on the 1994 turbo and a few limited production cars.

here is one from a polished set I have for sale. Going rate for factory wheels is from $5200 to $8k depending on who has them. RH replicas will run around $4k new.

Vilhuer 12-19-2007 10:14 AM

There has been some talk about them in some of the wheel threads. Should be 18". They are very likely made by http://www.rh-alurad.de and called P Rad. 3 piece construction makes them expensive.

There are few cheaper single piece alternatives like Keskin KT2, http://www.keskin-tuning.de. In UK there is other very similar single piece wheel available, http://www.velocewheels.com/veloce36/. At least Keskin is very heavy compared to 964 Turbo 3.6 Speedlines.

hacker-pschorr 12-19-2007 10:17 AM

I wish more 3-piece wheels were made like Fikse with the bolts on the inside.

cobalt 12-19-2007 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Vilhuer (Post 4895461)
There has been some talk about them in some of the wheel threads. Should be 18". They are very likely made by http://www.rh-alurad.de and called P Rad. 3 piece construction makes them expensive.

There are few cheaper single piece alternatives like Keskin KT2, http://www.keskin-tuning.de. In UK there is other very similar single piece wheel available, http://www.velocewheels.com/veloce36/. At least Keskin is very heavy compared to 964 Turbo 3.6 Speedlines.

The speedlines are already quite heavy weighing in at 25.38 for the 8 x 18 and 26.75 for the 10 x 18. How much more can they weigh?


Originally Posted by Enzo (Post 4895474)
I wish more 3-piece wheels were made like Fikse with the bolts on the inside.

I have the Fikse's mach V's on my C2 and although it makes cleaning easier on the outside the speedline is still a nicer wheel IMO. I happen to like the look of the 40 bolts and the speedline is much more durable than the Fikse.

BTW there is someone who might have access to a set of 3.8 RS wheels on the turbo forum. Same wheels as the turbo but 9and 11 inch widths with an ET 5 offset on the rears. Similar deep dish look as the ones posted and a fortune, but will always hold their value.

Vilhuer 12-19-2007 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by cobalt (Post 4895492)
The speedlines are already quite heavy weighing in at 25.38 for the 8 x 18 and 26.75 for the 10 x 18. How much more can they weigh?

Damn those Speedlines are heavy too. Keskin's are probably few kilos more even.

By the way, what are Speedline ET's? Quess PET has them listed but I'm too lazy to check right now.

hacker-pschorr 12-19-2007 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by cobalt (Post 4895492)
I happen to like the look of the 40 bolts

I think it looks too busy, doesn't help that for a while it seams like everyone started making "3-piece look" wheels. Like the ones on my Audi.

cobalt 12-19-2007 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Vilhuer (Post 4895532)
Damn those Speedlines are heavy too. Keskin's are probably few kilos more even.

By the way, what are Speedline ET's? Quess PET has them listed but I'm too lazy to check right now.

Fronts are ET 52 and rears are ET61. Yes they are heavy but can handle abuse the RH's can't. Even my Fikse's would bend or crack easily on most roads as where it is near impossible to bend the speedlines. Ironically the speedlines weigh about the same as any other 18" wheel used by Porsche. Even the GT3 wheels weigh about the same.

cobalt 12-19-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Enzo (Post 4895551)
I think it looks too busy, doesn't help that for a while it seams like everyone started making "3-piece look" wheels. Like the ones on my Audi.

These were the first and only 3 piece wheel Porsche ever used. The 94 turbo was the first "production" car to use 18" wheels. They gave the car a very racy look over the stock Cup 1's used on the 91-92 turbos and 93 GTS. I agree thye are not for every car but a must on my turbo.

hacker-pschorr 12-19-2007 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by cobalt (Post 4895567)
These were the first and only 3 piece wheel Porsche ever used. The 94 turbo was the first "production" car to use 18" wheels. They gave the car a very racy look over the stock Cup 1's used on the 91-92 turbos and 93 GTS. I agree thye are not for every car but a must on my turbo.

There is a 993 Turbo my mechanic is working on right now, darker shade of blue with the same wheels (they look the same, not sure the brand).

Yes on some cars they look great, you have an awesome 3.6.

cobalt 12-19-2007 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Enzo (Post 4895617)
There is a 993 Turbo my mechanic is working on right now, darker shade of blue with the same wheels (they look the same, not sure the brand).

Yes on some cars they look great, you have an awesome 3.6.

Thanks

largecar379 12-19-2007 01:45 PM

I could make the offer to you to move from that pot holed state of yours, but.......well, you'd have fewer bent wheels.;)

---Russ

fraggle 12-19-2007 09:35 PM

The first one pictures are 17"s. The rear is running a 335/35ZR17"!

Charley B 12-21-2007 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by Syed
Please can someone tell me what rims these are and where to source them?

They are:

Front BBS-RS 080, 9" X 17"
Rear BBS-RS 083, 13" X 17"

I think they were installed on the car in Germany about 15 years ago when the conversion was done and were probably sourced from Kerscher Tuning.

Courtshark 12-21-2007 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by cobalt (Post 4895492)
The speedlines are already quite heavy weighing in at 25.38 for the 8 x 18 and 26.75 for the 10 x 18. How much more can they weigh?

I have the Fikse's mach V's on my C2 and although it makes cleaning easier on the outside the speedline is still a nicer wheel IMO. I happen to like the look of the 40 bolts and the speedline is much more durable than the Fikse.

BTW there is someone who might have access to a set of 3.8 RS wheels on the turbo forum. Same wheels as the turbo but 9and 11 inch widths with an ET 5 offset on the rears. Similar deep dish look as the ones posted and a fortune, but will always hold their value.


That seems crazy to me... spend that kind of dough for 3 piece wheels and they increase your insprung weight? My Kinesis wheels, which look pretty damn similar to these Speedlines, weigh far less. I'd bet they weigh less than the speedlines even with tires mounted on them.


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