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Old 11-29-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Injector removal from wiring

Have the fuel rails off and the injectors will pop out but was wondering how I remove the wiring without the 'special tool'.

Thought I'd read somewhere about using 2 small screwdrives but can't find it.
Old 11-29-2007, 12:16 AM
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Sometimes ou can just yank them off. Other times I use a pick to spread the wire retaining clip at the top. If you are successful in yanking one off, you'll beable to see how the clip operates.
Old 11-29-2007, 12:19 AM
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Any one of these work.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objec...3100/43027.JPG
Old 11-29-2007, 12:20 AM
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I just pulled my injectors out and usualy use 1 small jewelers flat blade screw driver. Start on one side of the clip and work it around being carefull not to let it pop/fly off. Usualy once it is part way off I use needle nose plyers to take it off.
Old 11-29-2007, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by soupcan928
This is what I use to remove the wire retainer completely, before pulling the plug.

I have found that with new connectors (on a newer car) the wiggle-it-'til-it-releases routine works fine, but in our older cars I have found that the harness plug cap is brittle, and often breaks.
Old 11-29-2007, 12:43 AM
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Ahhh, whyda have to go and remind me. I'm going to do R&R the 86.5 intake this weekend(?), and I had pretty much talked myself out of replacing ten of the two pin connectors and booties with Audi-push-to-release type (no cutting, just swapping the terminals).

The 928 ones are so aggravating.


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I saw a good tip on another thread on same issue which suggested using one of those claw-type grabbers to pull the wire retaining clip away from its recess. This way if it pops off you still have a hold on it!

I tried the tip when i was testing the Temp 2 sensor and it works well.

But I am doing my intake refresh soon and did get hold of the now expensive Bosch tool from 928 Specialists (not their fault - Bosch put the price up). I thought it was worth it to reduce risk of damage to the injector harness, and it's also meant to be handy for removing connector to throttle position switch which is tricky to access without the tool.
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Originally Posted by PorKen
Ahhh, whyda have to go and remind me. I'm going to do R&R the 86.5 intake this weekend(?), and I had pretty much talked myself out of replacing ten of the two pin connectors and booties with Audi-push-to-release type (no cutting, just swapping the terminals).

The 928 ones are so aggravating.


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Hi PorKen,

Do you have any reference number for the Audi connectors? Are they just standard new type Amphenol 2-pin connectors with the push to remove clip?
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Originally Posted by Mako 928
I just pulled my injectors out and usualy use 1 small jewelers flat blade screw driver. Start on one side of the clip and work it around being carefull not to let it pop/fly off. Usualy once it is part way off I use needle nose plyers to take it off.
I just completed my 86.5, in a fashion similar to the above. I would do most anything to avoid removing injectors after this exercise. Avoid "pulling on them" until they release, that is unless one wants to replace some portion of the harness. Also try to avoid breaking the plastic retainer that holds the metal clip in place, as doing so reduces the positiveness of the connection.

Mike
Old 11-29-2007, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by soupcan928
those scribes look like tools from a hostel movie
Old 11-29-2007, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by StratfordShark
Hi PorKen,

Do you have any reference number for the Audi connectors? Are they just standard new type Amphenol 2-pin connectors with the push to remove clip?
+1 Porken?
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
Other times I use a pick to spread the wire retaining clip at the top.
+1.

If anyone is going to disconnect the injectors you really need to have either the special tool or two small picks. That is, of course, only if you'd like to minimize the probability of breaking the clips, snapping the brittle insulation and shorting the wires, breaking the harness connectors, or ripping the connectors right off the harness. A fuel injection harness is pretty cheap for these cars... Not.

Two small sewing needles might work too. Use a needle on each side of the connector to disengage the spring clips and to keep them disengaged while you work the connector off the injector.


Porken - the spring loaded connectors are the schiznet. The GTS harnesses have them. Please post Audi/VW numbers (those aren't them in the picture are they?)
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On a related note, what kind of tool is required to take the injectors out of the intake? I have a spare intake for my car that Adam G. has graciously loaned me to do the refurb but I don't want to force the injector removal.
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Originally Posted by NJSharkFan
On a related note, what kind of tool is required to take the injectors out of the intake?
Lube. Patience. Lube. A strong set of hands. More Lube. (Boy does that sound weird.)

Here's what I do: use WD40, or PBBlaster, motor oil, anything that will lubricate the o-rings. It doesn't matter what since you won't be reusing the o-rings (right?) Work the injectors in a conical pattern to try to get the lube worked into/past the o-rings. Then keep working the injectors around while you pull up. Pull up harder. This method has worked for me 9 times out of 10.
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Originally Posted by worf928
Lube. Patience. Lube. A strong set of hands. More Lube. (Boy does that sound weird.) .


Originally Posted by worf928
Here's what I do: use WD40, or PBBlaster, motor oil, anything that will lubricate the o-rings. It doesn't matter what since you won't be reusing the o-rings (right?) Work the injectors in a conical pattern to try to get the lube worked into/past the o-rings. Then keep working the injectors around while you pull up. Pull up harder. This method has worked for me 9 times out of 10.
and then even more patience....

Mike


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