fummins

Thanks,im on it.

jpitman2

remove 2 10mm nuts up under the bumper cover, pull top of cover off the bolts, the slide fron edge backwards out of tank cradle, will expose pump and filter...
jpo 83 Euro S AT 51k

fummins

Thanks guys,shes running! After dropping the inspection cover,i gave everything a light rap with a hammer,figured it couldnt hurt,shes in the garage purring as i type!

jpitman2

This may only be a temporary fix! Mine stopped once, removed pump, put 12V on it, and it spat out an obstruction. I would check your in tank filter for failure or blockage, and while its empty, remove the level sender/pick up and inspect the insides for cleanliness - my bet is its not very nice in there...mine was badly loaded with mud from years in a dusty environment. If your tank filter has 2 wires into it, there is a pump inside the tank, and many of these have problems with a connecting hose failure that overloads the external pump. If there wasnt an obstruction, the failure could be a sign that the pump is nearly dead - some spots on the commutator dont make contact, and it wont start if it stops in that spot.
jp 83 Euro S AT 51k

fummins

Good point,i just took her out for a spin,shes missing under acceleration,
i did attempt to flush the pump and filter by disconnecting the secondary filter to motor fuel line and then cycled the pump,heres the strange part? The fuel pump did not pump fuel with the key in the on position,only when the motor was turning over would it pump.I still cant hear the pump running,im wondering if it came apart somehow inside?

Richard S

If you need help replacing anything, let me know. I've done intank and external fuel pumps before. Follow the fuel line that feeds into the fuel pump, it goes to the bottom of the fuel tank. The intank pump is at the bottom of the fuel tank, so if there are wires along with the fuel line then you have an intank pump. If no wires, then you have an intank screen/filter. (This area might be hard to see, it's partially hidden by the tank cradle.)

The "Purolator" that you see is the external fuel filter above the external pump. Should be replaced at regular intervals.

Rich

fummins

Thanks Rich,its obvious to me that she needs a bit of sorting out in the tank/pump department.I think i will take you up on your offer. Thanks

Richard S

We can run a CIS system check, I think Gerry in Stockton has my CIS pressure guages. If you want to change out the pump(s) we can do that also. At a minimum change the external filter, and check the pump connections. The only warning in regards to the intank pump or filter is to make sure it comes out easily and hasn't corroded to the threads. Check with Paul to see if he has done any fuel tank/pump maintenance. I'm out of town this weekend, so perhaps after Thanksgiving we can get together.

Rich

fummins

Thanks Richard,appreciate your offer of help.Thanks to the other posters as well.Nothing worse than having a new car that wont run.Talk about a bummer.I had hoped this car would give me a bit of problem free driving,this is the fourth time I have tried to drive it since purchasing.Talked to Paul about it on the phone yesterday,he didnt seem to have much insight as to the problem.Im ready to tackle the problem as soon as you are able.Thanks again.

89 928 turbo

I saw the reference for the relay above,

There must be a fuse to check in this too, right?

I had a similiar issue last summer....car running fine, suddenly no fuel.....after much checking it was the darn 15A fuse.

JT
89 928 turbo

89 928 turbo

Oops,

I think I only got as far as page one....

this is nearly solved......

JT

Jim bailey - 928 International

The fuel pump pumps only when cranking on the starter motor and continues to run as long as the engine is running. That way you do not fill the engine with fuel if you have the ignition switch on with out the engine running and an injector leaks . Like when you are installing a radio,working on windows or seats. Plus if you crash into a tree and catch on fire the fuel pump stops pumping when the engine dies. The pump in this case is probably going to need to be replaced. At a minimum make a long insulated good sized jumper wire so you can attach to the battery + and to the fuel pump when it next decides to stop be sure to carry the right tools.

fummins

Thanks for the input Jim.Why are you of the opinion the pump needs replacement?Thanks,Mark.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Typically when they start acting up it only gets worse and then the hammer trick may not work. That can be very inconvenient ...like in the middle of the Bay Bridge or 2 am Sunday morning in Hanford ...Besides I sell parts and do not own a towing service ! Although I wish I did Saturday I needed a tow . AAA free 100 miles but was 120 miles from 928 International the PER MILE CHARGE for EXCESS miles is $7.00 !! per mile . So I borrowed a car drove to 928, drove back, and fixed the car. That way I could stay and race on Sunday and still drive it home.

fummins

Good stuff Jim.I guess I should have clarified my question.Is it not likely that the filters are compromised and the pump is good?