Snowball the 81 white 928

hey randy, what up wit da frank chit?

hey dave, i meant no offense but i have a card too and in very short order i found that it never really mattered what the client said as they are almost always lying through their teeth in the belief that you will perpetuate their bs story, only to be seriously embarrassed in open court. my personal feeling is that only 10% get caught so if they nabbed you, you must be guilty (yeah, right winger all the way, too bad lefties.) i could not care though because, for me, eventually, it all boiled down to how strong mr da's case was. if you can't shut off your emotions while defending a 3 time loser facing 20 to life, don't do it. my point though was don't rag about the money issue with people not in the know because the public thinks lawyers overreach and we know that there are more s#*tball slow pay/no pay clients than those with deep pockets.

btw, the practice, la law and the west wing ALL suck. there is no reality to be found there.

also, as to the innocent issue, i heard that EVERYONE in prison was innocent (LMAO). the only way a truly innocent person will get locked up is if it is a thin circumstantial case and you failed to strike the bumfuzzling morons from the jury, or racial issues get in the way, or joe idiot defendant makes a stupid statement while detained. i am strongly in favor of dna evidence exonerating those locked up due to some samaritan's faulty id or some chemist's bs testimony.

sorry about the rant, thank g_d i don't have a docket anymore. btw, i loved 1983 cases and absolutely loved suing the cops for brutality and illegal strip searches. F#$k 'em.

again, nothing personal intended.

Steve Cattaneo

Snowy,

“Sharkansas” is 1200 miles from upstate New York, too far for a weekend trip. I wanted to go to the “sharks in the mountains” but we have plans for that week.

Maybe someone will put a get together closer to New York.

If I had the money that your criminal defendants paid you, I could retire and have plenty of playtime.

Randy,

Those are the same holes you have on your car, except my caps are black. I also have them on the front, but there I’m going to mount micro driving lights. <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" />

Big Dave,

When I installed the Strosck wing, I removed the stock black spoiler. The wiper had to come off. I decided to sand and paint it. It was drying in the garage when this picture was taken.

John,

I don’t know, I guess it was the cheapest way to pass DOT inspection. The fronts are also flush mounted. I don’t like the look. I’m going to recess them with clear front driving lights.

It’s going to look a lot sweeter when I put “Supercharged” on the rear. <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" />

Steve C
The Great White
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

Snowball the 81 white 928

oh, to answer your question, the american legal system sucks because: 1) too many lawyers, 2) nothing to discourage bs claims, 3) disproportionate jury awards.

solutions: 1) discourage people from attending law school, make other professions more attractive. plumbers make more $$ than 80% of lawyers. if i had a child (snowy jr.), i would definitely encourage tech school, never law school. mark my words, we're seeing the same thing in the medical field as schools are flooding us with doctors. reduced fees for service leads to crappy service. 2) make lawyers feel some pain when their frivolous claims get bounced out of court. rule 11 is a joke, most lawyers laugh at the threat of sanctions. english system makes party pay atty fees if they lose. 3) this is the toughie. does the general public really have a grasp of how much is 40m, 400m etc?i say bust those awards at the appellate level.

again, no offense just opinion. btw, my specialty was brief and motion writing, and appellate practice, otherwise known as unf#$king up someone elses case. i got sentences reduced under "the guidelines" and had several published bankruptcy and federal opinions at all levels.

glad it's over.

Snowball the 81 white 928

hay steveman, i think you are probably making more scratch as a tranny man than i did fixing tickets. make the time for sharkansas. s%^t dude, it's almost 1500 miles for me to get there, but following that i will hang out in pattycakes' area and do some aviatin'. be there or be [].

abduln

As for the use of Porsche's name for a domain, it is their perogative to decide who can use it and who can't. It's their tradmarkd and copyright. People always say that big corps should not be able to do that, well I have new all corps can do it, and so can people; it has nothing to do with big corps rights. If you were a tiny little garage and your business name were being used without your permission it would probably fry your cheese, well it's no different with Porsche, GM, or whoever. It's funny, Ford didn't enforce the Cobra name for a long time with all those kit cars running around out there, then suddenly Shelby working for Chrysler decides he want's to call their new car the Cobra, they reasoned in court that Ford had no right to deny them because they did not deny the kit car companies. Well, Shelby/Chrysler lost and they ended up calling the car the Viper. That is an example of the kind of crap you might have to put up with if you don't manage the use of your tradmarks.

As for lawyer bashing, that is a bunch of crap. We are all entitled to use lawyers or represent ourselves; you don't have to use one if you don't want to. Additionally, lawyers only do what they do because their clients let them. A former colleague of mine is suing my former employer because he was laidoff and I was called as a witness. This lawyer after meeting me tried to solicit me as a client because I look middle eastern (though I am not), and he figured my former employer must have discriminated against me as a result when I was let go. I didn't give him any indication that I was in need of his services. I was not discriminated against, though I knew I could have lied and brought up a case, but that would have been really crappy of me and I won't do it. I figure he is just a litigious ambulence chaser... however it was my decision to throw his card away. I didn't give him any business, so he couldn't clog up the court system with a bogus case. Most layers that I have met are not ambulence chasers, they just do what they can to win their cases; they are obligated to do that for their client.

Abdul

Robert Orellana

Everyone, get a load of this story:

<a href="http://www.ncchelp.org/The_Story/the_story.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ncchelp.org/The_Story/the_story.htm</a>

Tarek307

Holly thread resurrect lol, i'm going through this now with my business, CarreraMotorSports guess i'll also have to submit..seems big dog eat little dog ...

RKD in OKC

Did web site for local independent Porsche Only Service shop. "Porsche" was not in the domain name, but is used throughout the site to explain what they do. Porsche sent instructions for re-wordng the site to use their name describing the work done without offending their brand. Their logo was a stylized top outline of a 930, much like Rogers logo. It got nixed.

Tazzieman

Is that the standard amount , or is it just a Rather Large Figure designed to intimidate you?
Shame on Porcshe.
Actually Porcshe.com is quite a good name for a domain , it even has a bacony look about it. And lots of people can't spel these days so they will probably stumble upon it anyway.

linderpat

oh the irony!
Yes, shame on Porsche. All they did was spend tens upon tens (if not hundreds) of millions of dollars over decades to build a brand, but it is unfair that we can't use it for free for our little sandbox. Of course we would have no standard for what the name looks like, or in what context it is used. Pretty soon, Porsche will be "Kleenex" and that brand investment will be wasted. But that's okay, I'll get to stick the name and logo on my Fierra to 959 conversion without impunity

Landshark87

this reminds me when this site used to be an e-mail-based "Porschelist".

i would fire up my dialup WebTV, go make a sandwich, and about halfway through eating it, most of the posts had loaded and i could start reading them.

Adk46

There are always two sets of feelings at play in discussions like these:

First, some feel it is just wrong to assert exclusive ownership of a word. It's not really like that - you can use a trademark mostly as you wish. I can say "I like Coca Cola". But there is a fairly bright line that you shouldn't cross; it is easy to see if you put yourself in the shoes of the owner of the trademark. "Shoes" is a useful image - you wouldn't be happy seeing someone using your shoes. Trademark is about identity, about which we are all very sensitive.

Second, there is the David and Goliath aspect of the dispute. In legal matters, there is even a concept that supports this: a court may find that a dispute lacks substance, is too trivial. This might play out in practice if one were to ignore the cease and desist letter. But trademark owners are advised that when they learn of a potential misuse of their trademark, they must object; they need the C&D letter in their files, at the very least. But the bottom line is that everybody is supposed to be treated the same, big or small. This is a good concept; we small folks should not seek an exemption. Then again, I wish more people would ignore C&D letters that are clearly silly.

linderpat

amen to that Curt.

WyattsRide

Expect a C&D letter to you soon Ed!

drwhosc

We had to change porschefest to summerfest because the P boys got made. You would think they would like their brand to be embraced by the enthusiasts, but their lawyers and marketing folks thing differently. Oh well they sell cars, and they are now part of vw.