what radar detector are you using
05-20-2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicole
3. Being able to determine what band the boogie is - all LEDs have the same color and I have to take a closer look which costs unnecessary time. If I'd hit the brakes everytime an X-Band boogey is detected, I'd get whiplash... I want to know what I'm facing
05-20-2007, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverLateInMyNineTwoEight
What is the big advantage of the arrows?
It seems those that use the V1 love the arrows and being able to detect the direction of the radar, so I'm wondering.
For me, over the years, when the detector goes off, especially for K, I'm hitting the brakes, then looking around. It woudn't hurt to have the arrows I guess, but my first concern is being aware that I'm being hit so I can hit the brakes asap, then my secondary concern is the location of the offending radar which usually comes into view shortly after I get the strong signal indication.
Thanks. -Ed
ps: I use the 8500 X50 and love it. No tickets since I got it. And not saying its better then any other unit, only that is has worked fine for me.
It seems those that use the V1 love the arrows and being able to detect the direction of the radar, so I'm wondering.
For me, over the years, when the detector goes off, especially for K, I'm hitting the brakes, then looking around. It woudn't hurt to have the arrows I guess, but my first concern is being aware that I'm being hit so I can hit the brakes asap, then my secondary concern is the location of the offending radar which usually comes into view shortly after I get the strong signal indication.
Thanks. -Ed
ps: I use the 8500 X50 and love it. No tickets since I got it. And not saying its better then any other unit, only that is has worked fine for me.
I am so used to the arrows I can interpret them in my peripheral vision as I look around; for example, noticing that the blinking arrow has gone from front to side to rear. The most important thing in these first few seconds is that I am looking out and around; having to stare at and interpret a display would be a hindrance IMHO.
From another post where I describe how I use the arrows:
Originally Posted by SharkSkin
H, I know you asked the other Dave this question, but it sometimes helps, sometimes doesn't.
If he's off to the side, he's no threat(yet).
If it's a very strong signal, strong enough for him to get a lock(or nearly so) when you are first alerted, it makes no difference -- you have to drop anchor immediately.
For me, in the local terrain/threat environment, often times radar will first be detected as a very weak signal, one to three LEDs. At this level he can't possibly have a lock.
If it's from the rear, you can just monitor it for a while, seeing if the signal gets stronger while you check your mirrors. If it gets weaker & disappears, drive on. If it stays the same or increases, he's behind you in traffic -- take action.
If it's from the front, increasing strength rapidly, he's probably stopped or on the other side and you're approaching him rapidly -- you must act quickly. If it's from the front and staying at the same strength or increasing slowly, he's ahead of you in traffic and you have some time to take action.
In brief: if you slam the brakes at the first beep, knowing where the cop is carries no benefit. Sometimes a signal comes in so strong there is nothing to do but hit the binders. Sometimes the V1 detects him far enough away that you have time to think about how to respond, and in these cases the extra information is helpful -- IMHO.
If he's off to the side, he's no threat(yet).
If it's a very strong signal, strong enough for him to get a lock(or nearly so) when you are first alerted, it makes no difference -- you have to drop anchor immediately.
For me, in the local terrain/threat environment, often times radar will first be detected as a very weak signal, one to three LEDs. At this level he can't possibly have a lock.
If it's from the rear, you can just monitor it for a while, seeing if the signal gets stronger while you check your mirrors. If it gets weaker & disappears, drive on. If it stays the same or increases, he's behind you in traffic -- take action.
If it's from the front, increasing strength rapidly, he's probably stopped or on the other side and you're approaching him rapidly -- you must act quickly. If it's from the front and staying at the same strength or increasing slowly, he's ahead of you in traffic and you have some time to take action.
In brief: if you slam the brakes at the first beep, knowing where the cop is carries no benefit. Sometimes a signal comes in so strong there is nothing to do but hit the binders. Sometimes the V1 detects him far enough away that you have time to think about how to respond, and in these cases the extra information is helpful -- IMHO.
05-20-2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabio421
Whats the story with the X band false alarms? Please elaborate.
Originally Posted by V1 Owner's Manual
In the All-Bogeys mode, all bogeys will be reported as soon as they are detected. Use your judgment to decide whether or not they are threats.
In the Logic and Advanced-Logic modes, you are deferring to the internal computer which will use its own logic to screen bogeys before reporting them to you.
In Logic, X-band bogeys the computer judges to be non-threatening will be reported at the "muted" volume. If they become threatening, the audio warning will upgrade to the "initial" volume before you are within radar range.
In Advanced-Logic, X-band bogeys that the computer has reason to believe aren't radar will not be reported at all. One exception: To be failsafe, the computer will always pass extremely strong signals along for your judgment. This mode is particularly useful in metro areas. The computer is smart: It never operates the receiving circuits at less than maximum sensitivity and it knows that Instant-on is a greater threat than ordinary radar. So it will always warn you immediately at the "initial" volume when those radars are detected, no matter what mode you've selected
In the Logic and Advanced-Logic modes, you are deferring to the internal computer which will use its own logic to screen bogeys before reporting them to you.
In Logic, X-band bogeys the computer judges to be non-threatening will be reported at the "muted" volume. If they become threatening, the audio warning will upgrade to the "initial" volume before you are within radar range.
In Advanced-Logic, X-band bogeys that the computer has reason to believe aren't radar will not be reported at all. One exception: To be failsafe, the computer will always pass extremely strong signals along for your judgment. This mode is particularly useful in metro areas. The computer is smart: It never operates the receiving circuits at less than maximum sensitivity and it knows that Instant-on is a greater threat than ordinary radar. So it will always warn you immediately at the "initial" volume when those radars are detected, no matter what mode you've selected
05-20-2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Abby
Bel RX65
Recently tried the Rocky Mountain Radar Detector with Jamming and was impressed.
The top 4 have all been mentioned here.. in addition to the two above the Escort and V1 are quality units. I've personally tested them all and prefer Bel.
Although I am considering one of the Rocky Mountain Units for the Shark because of the scrambler.
http://www.rockymountainradar.com/
Recently tried the Rocky Mountain Radar Detector with Jamming and was impressed.
The top 4 have all been mentioned here.. in addition to the two above the Escort and V1 are quality units. I've personally tested them all and prefer Bel.
Although I am considering one of the Rocky Mountain Units for the Shark because of the scrambler.
http://www.rockymountainradar.com/
05-20-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 0utlier
I'm definitely not trying to rain on your parade, but it seems that RMR is selling snake oil. Don't know if you've read http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleID=8501 or not. It was quite an interesting read nonetheless.
I don't really buy into the radar test sites that ***** out their results. I test them attached to my windsheild. I took an 800 mile trip and the chance to try it on the trip because a friend just purchased it. It detected very well however I did not verify that it jammed or scrambled. As stated though it did an excellent job of detection.
I'm a loyal Beltronics user since 87 so I probably would not change brands.
05-20-2007, 07:42 PM
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CONDUCTING INDEPENDENT RESEARCH...and useful links
Well, OhhCeeDee,
If you can wait til 2nd week of June for follow-up on 'independent research' -- a friend and I are going to trade out our detectors @ SITM...
He gets my V-1 and I get one of his Passports. He is going to use the V-1 and the 8500 side by side. . . We'll fill you in on the results.
Having said that, I travel virtually every where with my V-1... HOWEVER, on a recent biz trip I opted to leave it at home, thinking I wouldn't need it, for whatever reasons... I did forget, tho, that I was still taking along my 'heavy right foot'...
Well, needless to say, I got a speeding ticket (tho not near the penalty I perhaps could have, if I was caught a bit earlier)...
And no one could answer me (was a non-contiguous state) whether it wouuld show up on my TX record -- NOT EVEN MY LOCAL TX DMV!
Anyone know how to find THAT info out? -- for 'future reference' at this point, but always 'good to know'. I opted for defensive driving, yet it's unclear whether to register under state where I live or where 'alleged offense' occurred...(Even an online course info person said 'that's a good question')... Jeeez....
The links-
Here's a dated link, but compares the top three condenders in question:
BEL v ESCORT v VALENTINE
And a more current link on laser jammers:
LASER JAMMER TESTING
And finally -- a link to speed traps... no guarantees, just info...CLICK ON 'SPEED TRAP LISTINGS':
SPEED TRAP SITE
Can ya kinda tell this topic is 'near and dear to me?'...
BTW, once when I contacted Valentine with a question, they asked me where I lived... They not only knew about the 'LEO's' (Andrew's term -- mine ain't always as nice!)
but informed me they always have the state of the art equipment AND that 'if you get stopped you WILL get ticketed'... 
*this info is provided 'fee free'
Safe travels to all!
Kim
If you can wait til 2nd week of June for follow-up on 'independent research' -- a friend and I are going to trade out our detectors @ SITM...
He gets my V-1 and I get one of his Passports. He is going to use the V-1 and the 8500 side by side. . . We'll fill you in on the results.
Having said that, I travel virtually every where with my V-1... HOWEVER, on a recent biz trip I opted to leave it at home, thinking I wouldn't need it, for whatever reasons... I did forget, tho, that I was still taking along my 'heavy right foot'...
Well, needless to say, I got a speeding ticket (tho not near the penalty I perhaps could have, if I was caught a bit earlier)...
And no one could answer me (was a non-contiguous state) whether it wouuld show up on my TX record -- NOT EVEN MY LOCAL TX DMV!
Anyone know how to find THAT info out? -- for 'future reference' at this point, but always 'good to know'. I opted for defensive driving, yet it's unclear whether to register under state where I live or where 'alleged offense' occurred...(Even an online course info person said 'that's a good question')... Jeeez....
The links-
Here's a dated link, but compares the top three condenders in question:
BEL v ESCORT v VALENTINE
And a more current link on laser jammers:
LASER JAMMER TESTING
And finally -- a link to speed traps... no guarantees, just info...CLICK ON 'SPEED TRAP LISTINGS':
SPEED TRAP SITE
Can ya kinda tell this topic is 'near and dear to me?'...
BTW, once when I contacted Valentine with a question, they asked me where I lived... They not only knew about the 'LEO's' (Andrew's term -- mine ain't always as nice!)
but informed me they always have the state of the art equipment AND that 'if you get stopped you WILL get ticketed'... *this info is provided 'fee free'
Safe travels to all!
Kim
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05-20-2007, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RSKY BIZ
Well, OhhCeeDee,
If you can wait til 2nd week of June -- a friend and I are going to trade out our detectors @ SITM... He gets my V-1 and I get one of his Passports. He is going to use the V-1 and the 8500 side by side. . . We'll fill you in on the results.
Having said that, I travel virtually every where with my V-1... HOWEVER, on a recent biz trip I opted to leave it at home, thinking I wouldn't need it, for whatever reasons... I did forget, tho, that I was still taking along my 'heavy right foot'...
Well, needless to say, I got a speeding ticket (tho not near the penalty I perhaps could have, if I was caught a bit earlier)... And no one could answer me (was a non-contiguous state) whether it wouuld show up on my TX record -- NOT EVEN MY LOCAL TX DMV!
Anyone know how to find THAT info out? -- for 'future reference' at this point, but always 'good to know'. I opted for defensive driving, yet it's unclear whether to register under state where I live or where 'alleged offense' occurred...(Even an online course info person said 'that's a good question')... Jeeez....
The links-
Here's a dated link, but compares the top three condenders in question:
BEL v ESCORT v VALENTINE
And a more current link on laser jammers:
LASER JAMMER TESTING
And finally -- a link to speed traps... no guarantees, just info...CLICK ON 'SPEED TRAP LISTINGS':
SPEED TRAP SITE
If you can wait til 2nd week of June -- a friend and I are going to trade out our detectors @ SITM... He gets my V-1 and I get one of his Passports. He is going to use the V-1 and the 8500 side by side. . . We'll fill you in on the results.
Having said that, I travel virtually every where with my V-1... HOWEVER, on a recent biz trip I opted to leave it at home, thinking I wouldn't need it, for whatever reasons... I did forget, tho, that I was still taking along my 'heavy right foot'...
Well, needless to say, I got a speeding ticket (tho not near the penalty I perhaps could have, if I was caught a bit earlier)... And no one could answer me (was a non-contiguous state) whether it wouuld show up on my TX record -- NOT EVEN MY LOCAL TX DMV!
Anyone know how to find THAT info out? -- for 'future reference' at this point, but always 'good to know'. I opted for defensive driving, yet it's unclear whether to register under state where I live or where 'alleged offense' occurred...(Even an online course info person said 'that's a good question')... Jeeez....
The links-
Here's a dated link, but compares the top three condenders in question:
BEL v ESCORT v VALENTINE
And a more current link on laser jammers:
LASER JAMMER TESTING
And finally -- a link to speed traps... no guarantees, just info...CLICK ON 'SPEED TRAP LISTINGS':
SPEED TRAP SITE
see ya at the G
oohh cee
05-20-2007, 11:38 PM
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A1 is a good sauce, but it's main function is to equalize all steaks, so that if you're entertaining and run out of heavily marbled offerings, you push the A1 and all is well. G
05-20-2007, 11:46 PM
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RMR is a total scam and does not jam radar or laser in any way. There is nothing in that POS that would make it work. I have bought 2 and they dont work but I knew that in the 1st place but just wanted it in my testing inventory.
05-21-2007, 12:07 AM
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I used a Bell for years with my Corrado, but I have never in the past 8 years mounted a radar detector in my 928. Why?
1. Florida police are a bit more realistic in my view. Yes, you can get a stupid ticket here, but for the most part you don't get stopped unless you are really over the speed limit. In my south-Florida opinion, if you get a ticket then you probably earned it.
2. North Carolina: My mother's family is from there, and each time I tell my dad that I'm coming home, if I'm driving up it is almost a reflex:
"At the State-Line make sure you slow to exactly the speed limit!"
North Carolina is a state that uses "Revenue Enhancement" as a certain part of the annual budget. They train the police up there to purposely stop people, not to improve safety, but to increase revenues. I've been completely sober, driving my dad's turbocharged 2002 Jetta down a winding rural road outside of Asheville and had a State Trooper follow me not only down 3 miles of winding roads...but when I pulled into the Ingles [NC grocery store chain] parking lot, he followed me in and watched me climb out of the car! I'm serious- this clown even stopped behind the Jetta and watched me climb out.
My advice: If you are coming to the police state of North Carolina, then the best radar detector on the planet, i.e. the Valentine unit is the one to have.
N!
1. Florida police are a bit more realistic in my view. Yes, you can get a stupid ticket here, but for the most part you don't get stopped unless you are really over the speed limit. In my south-Florida opinion, if you get a ticket then you probably earned it.
2. North Carolina: My mother's family is from there, and each time I tell my dad that I'm coming home, if I'm driving up it is almost a reflex:
"At the State-Line make sure you slow to exactly the speed limit!"
North Carolina is a state that uses "Revenue Enhancement" as a certain part of the annual budget. They train the police up there to purposely stop people, not to improve safety, but to increase revenues. I've been completely sober, driving my dad's turbocharged 2002 Jetta down a winding rural road outside of Asheville and had a State Trooper follow me not only down 3 miles of winding roads...but when I pulled into the Ingles [NC grocery store chain] parking lot, he followed me in and watched me climb out of the car! I'm serious- this clown even stopped behind the Jetta and watched me climb out.
My advice: If you are coming to the police state of North Carolina, then the best radar detector on the planet, i.e. the Valentine unit is the one to have.
N!
05-21-2007, 02:26 AM
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I have a Passport SRX (SR7 with jammers) installed in the '81. I keep meaning to transfer the system to my '86, as I don't really drive the '81 much anymore. It looks as if the SR7/X tech is getting old now but what can you do? I'd like a 9500i along with a jammer, but I think I will wait until the GPS system is better.
I bought a used bra for trips - not for looks, but to reduce the laser reflectivity of my WHITE cars. (The paint on both is crap anyway.)
I bought a used bra for trips - not for looks, but to reduce the laser reflectivity of my WHITE cars. (The paint on both is crap anyway.)