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Old 04-15-2007, 07:07 PM
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Unhappy I think I may have fried my brains (LH and EZF that is)

Dear All (1985, US, Auto)

Long story short...I got a set of chips that were burned by a respectable person and i put them in. I tried to crank it and nothing. So I removed the chips and put my old ones back in and cranked it up, no problem. So I figured that maybe the new chips were miss-labeled, so I swapped them back in, except this time I put them in the opposite computers. I cranked it and no start...So I decide that all this was for nothing and I put my stock chips back in their respective computers and now it will not start. I figured that maybe I got the chips backwards, so I swapped the stock chips around. Still no crank however the FP relay would chatter when the key is in the on position. I swap the chips back to the original position (I think) and I still have no start.

Currently I have Chip # 22273(65)428 in the LH2.2 computer (I could hardly read the numbers in () I think they are 65.
and I have chip #2287355631 in the EZF

Can some one tell me if I have the right chips in the correct computer?

Thanks to all for the help...I am currently freaking the hell out.
Old 04-15-2007, 07:14 PM
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>Currently I have Chip # 22273(65)428 in the LH2.2 computer (I could hardly read the numbers in () I think they are 65. and I have chip #2287355631 in the EZF

You have them backwards,

the 2287355xxx series chip goes in the LH.

Also watch your orientation, there is a notch one one end of the EPROM and also on the EPROM socket which should match up.
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:15 PM
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Try again; the stock EZF chip is 2227355520 on my car.

Looks as if you have them backward. Also, be careful you have pin 1 of the chip aligned with pin 1 on the pcb/socket.

You have the battery disconnected and your grounded right?
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Stereo Dave.........go to know we were on the same path.
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Oh, If it still doesn't run let me know. You hopefully just damaged the EPROMS and I have a batch of the 2732A EPROMs coming for some "tuning" I am currently doing and can burn you some stock copies.
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I was making sure to be careful (i.e. I have a ground bracelet from me to the car) while doing the swap...I feel like an idiot (I am an electrical engineer). I am gonna go swap them around and Ill get back to yall. Super thanks guys!
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so you pirated chips and maybe screwed up your LH....Karma Dude......
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Originally Posted by Shark Attack
so you pirated chips and maybe screwed up your LH....Karma Dude......
Damn...For what it is worth, I and another friend of mine are trying to do work on the .bin files that are on the chips so that we can share our findings with others here on this board, free of charge. I paid nothing for the chips and I am investing my time and knowledge into this project so that I can help others as they have helped me. My Karma is excellent my friend I assure you.

"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves. "
"Ignorance is the night of the mind, but a night without moon and star. "

Both from confucius.

No hard feelings though

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I put my EZ-F eBay clone chip in backwards after doing test runs on the dyno. Dead. One sign, the fuel pump runs constantly with the key on, before starting the engine. I carefully put the stock chip back in, and she fired right up.

The stock 2732 chips are really slow, 450ns. So old arcade chips, or whatever, will work.
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I went and swapped them and the FP relay cuts in and out, also I have run my battery down in the process from the initial swaps. I have the battery on a trickle charger and will try it in when the battery gets back up to it's proper charge.
Thanks again to all for the good advice.
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No actually it was said very light hearted... after just re-reading it.. it did come out kinda "dickish" via in type, sorry.. we have all been here...

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Damn...Thats the kind of brotherhood that you show?. For what it is worth, I and another friend of mine are trying to do work on the .bin files that are on the chips so that we can share our findings with others here on this board, free of charge. I paid nothing for the chips and I am investing my time and knowledge into this project so that I can help others as they have helped me. My Karma is excellent my frined I assure you.

"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves. "
"Ignorance is the night of the mind, but a night without moon and star. "

Both from confucius.

No hard feelings though
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Originally Posted by Shark Attack
No actually it was said very light hearted... after just re-reading it.. it did come out kinda "dickish" via in type, sorry.. we have all been here...
Is cool bro. thanks for the reply, it goes along way
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Well, the battery is charged up so I turned the key to the on position and the FP relay is still chattering. While I was listening to it (probably about 5-10 seconds) I herd a fairly loud boom from under the hood and I immediately turn the key off, (Keep in mind I was not cranking the motor over). I popped the hood and a decent amount of smoke came from under the hood. The weird thing is that it did not smell like electrical smoke (like from wire insulation or something). It smelled kind of like normal combustion smoke...I am stumped and distraught at this point. If anybody has any ideas I am all ears.
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ahh boy... You have got to be pooping yoru pants about now
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yup, I have cleaned out pants twice.

I have noticed that if I unplug the EZF computer that the FP relay stops chattering, but that is expected I guess. Man, if anybody has any ideas or feels like putting some prayers up to the god of Bwah, now would be a good time.

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