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Old 01-19-2007, 06:48 PM
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I changed my oil and got my clutch pressurized today. I checked all my fluids and all look good.

I went to start it, engine cranks, but either no spark or fuel. I haven't checked which yet.

My question is about warning lights. The central warning light is solid and a warning tone. Brake pressure, coolant and oil are good, so does this go out once the fluids have cycled?

Accompanying that, though, is rapidly flashing blinkers on the dash. The only reference I think I can find to this is if a flasher bulb is burnt out, but they all appear fine and hazards and left and right turn switches do as they're supposed to.

So, is this rapidly flashing blinker another start up warning? If so, what does it mean?

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Old 01-19-2007, 07:00 PM
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Are you sure it is in time?
Does it spin over faster than normal?
Old 01-19-2007, 07:07 PM
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Are you sure it is in time?
Does it spin over faster than normal?
Yes, I am pretty sure of that. Never 100% about anything, but it's turning at the normal rate. I checked and doubled-check and so on the timing before putting it all back together and was always within one-tenth of a tooth at TDC.

I'm not getting any combustion at all, no coughs.

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Old 01-19-2007, 07:14 PM
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Did you refasten the coil wires, including grounds? On some MY, the ignition ground on the driver side is removed as part of the TB job.
Old 01-19-2007, 07:17 PM
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Matt,
Have you yet the fuse for the fuel pump?
Old 01-19-2007, 07:52 PM
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It sounds like you need to find out what you are not getting.
If it spins over at the same rate you should have about the same amount of compression as before, so check for spark and fuel, as others above have suggested.
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I'm not going to mention starter fluid

So, yeah, pull a plug and see if you have spark or just check with an induction timing light on one of the plug wires on each side.
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
I'm not going to mention starter fluid

So, yeah, pull a plug and see if you have spark or just check with an induction timing light on one of the plug wires on each side.

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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
I'm not going to mention starter fluid

So, yeah, pull a plug and see if you have spark or just check with an induction timing light on one of the plug wires on each side.
What's that? Flood the cylinders with starter fluid? I'll try that first!

I am pretty sure I reconnected the ground on the driver side, but will double check. I have a timing light, so I'll check those while my wife cranks.

What I suspect, though, and what may be causing the flashing hazards is that I removed the alarm and set up a jumper. I am wondering if I need to revisit that. If the jumper is not correct, no spark, correct? I reinstalled the alarm, but it won't let me do anything without going off now.

No hurry on this, I will sort through it tomorrow or tonight.

Thanks, I will report again, and welcome any other ideas or thoughts on the alarm.

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Matt,

What Bill said. I found that when I got done I had forgotten to put on BOTH ignition coil wires at the coils. I had surveyed everything, didn't see anything hanging loose and thought it was ready. As soon as I cranked it over a few times (and sweated profusely) I realised I had tucked them up under the fender lip to get them out of the way.

Check your owner's manual about the flashing lights. Is the car level? If the front end is still up I don't think the sender will see any oil and it won't let you start without it. (also if you filled it with the front end up you may have to drain some out when it's level).

Just saw your last post. The alarm is probably more likely than the stuff I said. Nevermind.

BTW- Do you have a different mixture setup for being at that altitude? Just curious.

Good luck, by Sunday you should be cruizin .
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Oh, the alarm. I can't keep straight if it kills spark, fuel or both. But if you fiddled with that, get it back together. It would be safer if it killed fuel or both rather than just spark, but I can't remember.
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Oh, the alarm. I can't keep straight if it kills spark, fuel or both. But if you fiddled with that, get it back together. It would be safer if it killed fuel or both rather than just spark, but I can't remember.
I'm having a bear of a time figuring out what is correct for the alarm, and what it kills. Makes sense it would kill the EZ-K, especially on these cars since it is right there in the same footwell. I have reinstalled it now, but this car has one S-key for the trunk, that does not match the P-keys for the doors and ignition. It was that opening the trunk set off the alarm. Now it appears it is turning the ignition. So, all I get is the alarm and an excited son who rushes out to see if I just started WWIII.

To disable it, I jumpered 15 to 87A, but now see reference to 30 to 87A and can't find Wally P.'s write up about it, which I would assume to be definitive. I will send Wally a note and maybe he can help.

I should have mentioned the alarm the first time.

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15 to 87a is what I recall.
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Can't OVER emphasize!!! Check BOTH coil wires. My Buddy Chris burned his to a crisp due to one being disconnected. The unburned fuel from one cylinder bank collected in the cat & ignited- Just Doublecheck...



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