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Old 12-12-2006, 06:37 PM
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The devil at a car dealership is called flooring, its the interest cost per month they pay on the inventory they have. This 928 would also be a risky car to finance, the wrong owner could easily reduce the value very quickly and leave the finance company holding the bag and they don't like that much.

Its not a car that interests me directly, not for me to own, or as an investment. I just hope it finds a good owner and makes them happy.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tdelarm
Who was the lucky one to get your GTS...a fellow Rennlister?
A great guy from Fairfield, CT. Don't think he's on Rennlist. He has 3 other Porsches including an 88 S4. He loved the car when he saw it for the first time this past Saturday.
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Old 12-12-2006, 08:05 PM
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Well guys this is sure to just set all of you a blaze, but I saw the sucker within 15 minutes of it hitting Cars.com, I was on it, I am holding 5 Porsches right now,and I don't want to get divorced and so it is going to Willhoit. It is a real car, and when this happens it is just the first person there wins and it couldn't have been any of you... So don't go writing all kinds of crap about Willhoit when you see it on his site, he makes all of the cars worth more. Simply put it could have been any of you, so nothing bad should be said about it.. fair is fair, and we were the ones who got the deal done. I am sure I will see some anti capitalistic thread start the second it hits his site, but what will be is what will be. Let's face it, this what Willhoit does for a living, I am a Real Estate Broker who dabbles, chances are if there was a collector Porsche in my neighbors garage down the street, he would have it bought before I knew it was for sale.
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Old 12-12-2006, 08:15 PM
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Your paragraph is tough to comprehend and seems to conflict with other posts here as do they with the sales peoples accounts to me.

You seem to be saying the pro's, you and wilhoit, had it bought before anyone here could have.

1 salesmen told it me it had already shipped.

Anyways I think such a low miles example in red will be advertised by W at 49K.
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Old 12-12-2006, 08:21 PM
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I heard from Willhoit this afternoon that the car is ours, and I am sorry for what someone may tell you , I guess if Michael is lying to me I will find out soon, but he has no reason to lie.. So we will just see, there was a lot of hub bub on the car, but we got the call today that it is ours... So how about this, I will be the first one to slam him if he is lying to me, if not then I guess my account is true, it was not a simple deal, and there was a bit of a bidding war...
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Old 12-12-2006, 08:58 PM
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Well guys this is sure to just set all of you a blaze, but I saw the sucker within 15 minutes of it hitting Cars.com, I was on it, I am holding 5 Porsches right now,and I don't want to get divorced and so it is going to Willhoit. It is a real car, and when this happens it is just the first person there wins and it couldn't have been any of you... So don't go writing all kinds of crap about Willhoit when you see it on his site, he makes all of the cars worth more. Simply put it could have been any of you, so nothing bad should be said about it.. fair is fair, and we were the ones who got the deal done. I am sure I will see some anti capitalistic thread start the second it hits his site, but what will be is what will be. Let's face it, this what Willhoit does for a living, I am a Real Estate Broker who dabbles, chances are if there was a collector Porsche in my neighbors garage down the street, he would have it bought before I knew it was for sale.
Please, get real.


First off, let me be the first to say a big THANK YOU for letting us fellow 928 enthusiasts know of such a good deal when you first SAW IT... by posting it here on Rennlist. I’m just glad that someone other than AN owner/enthusiasts was able to buy it with the intention of making a substantial profit on it

However…if what you say is true, I certainly would not pay Wilhoit or any dealer, or for that matter anyone period, what I expect in this case will be a huge markup on a car that I saw for sale earlier at a lower price.

I can hear the bragging line now..."ya, I got this car for only a **** load more then I could have if I wasn't sitting on my a*ss"

So don't go writing all kinds of crap about Willhoit when you see it on his site, he makes all of the cars worth more.
DUH! That’s what used car dealers do. Buy low sell high but...so do realestate agents I guess And to that I say FBO! House and car.
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:07 PM
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First , this is what makes this board fun, second if you will read the list of things I have owned, I think I qualify as an enthusiast, I would keep the car, but my wife is at here limit with the cars, so hence it gets sold.. Sorry for your sour grapes towards specialist dealers and apparently Real Estate brokers too, but am I proud to be in my profession and I am sure you are proud of what you do also, so lets not slam each other, the purpose for my posting was simply to let you know of the deal since there was like 1500 views on this post, period. I think i will just not post period anymore when fun stuff happens. Sorry to have bothered anybody.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:05 PM
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"when this happens it is just the first person there wins and it couldn't have been any of you..." Yes Sir, Sir Yes
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:06 PM
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I was dead serious about getting the car. The only reason why I only put $3k down Saturday on my CC was they said it would cost them more by putting it all on CC. I immediately moved some fund around on Monday had it cleared today and was off to the bank to do the wire transfer when the guy above the saleman and I got into the "discussion" over $300.

They did say that a car dealer offered them $27k also. I assumed in this case it's Willhoit.

Like I said, I don't need the car and I wasn't into it to make money. Again, maybe I'm stupid but you got to stand behind your words. At least I do anyway.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:15 PM
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What do you mean posting when fun stuff happens. At this point you have me a bit confused. Where was the fun stuff. You buying the car, or the profit you or whomever will make?

Sounds too me like you bought the car, and now you've sold it to Willhoit? Or you bought the car from Willhoit? Or...

Well guys this is sure to just set all of you a blaze, but I saw the sucker within 15 minutes of it hitting Cars.com, I was on it, I am holding 5 Porsches right now,and I don't want to get divorced and so it is going to Willhoit.
I'm guessing you bought the car with the intentions of turning it over for a profit by selling it, which appears to be Whilloit who will again, sell it at an additional markup...and, that's probably why you didn't want to bother any of us in the first place when you saw the car by posting it here on Rennlist for someone else, whom may have wanted a nice low priced example?

That's all fine. But you can't expect us to share in your enthusiasm as you turn a profit. Most of us here on this forum would have posted this great find for someone who wants to own a nice example.

And I'm not slamming Realestate brokers as you noticed the razz face I included. Although I have to say, Alaskan's have a high rate of FBO as they simply file the paper work themselve's and save on the commission.

So again, you haven't botherd us now and you certainly didn't bother us initially either with the find. And I didn't imply you were not an owner/enthusiasts, the dealers are not.

Most true shark enthusiasts here probably can’t afford what Willhoit will re-sell that car for if that is what’s happening. And I know a few here on these forums that have been seriously looking.

So again, why are we supposed to be happy

My guess is you got to the car before Willhoit and Willhoit made a deal with you?
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:21 PM
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I think we should all be happy we have Porsches, and hopefully will always, and that boards like this allow us all to discuss it anytime we want.. I am a loyal Rennlister and I just enjoy the cars. Driving them , selling them, owning them period. That's all nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:05 AM
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I think we should all be happy we have Porsches, and hopefully will always, and that boards like this allow us all to discuss it anytime we want.. I am a loyal Rennlister and I just enjoy the cars. Driving them , selling them, owning them period. That's all nothing more, nothing less.
Well, that's all fine and good and as a Rennlist member dating 2001, I couldn't agree more but I call bullsh*t, this has nothing to do with the topic presently being discussed.

Apparently I'm not too far off base with my theory

Happy flipping, but don’t expect me as an avid “928” enthusiasts to celebrate in your glory or boast of profits from flipping a 928, especially when you post your great kill here in the 928 forum…hello!

What you’ve done is price this nice example out of the hands of many that would have really enjoyed it for many years of doting ownership. Time will tell.

I think if you were a true and loyal Rennlister, you would of thought of the Rennlisters first...but...whatever.
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:23 AM
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OK...this all makes sense now. I found this in the $69.5K 95 GTS 5 speed thread 928 forum.

Apparently you buy and sell cars and I'm just behind the times. Your Rennlist membership makes cents now.

This board never ceases to amaze and entertain.... Ok, you guys have to listen to Chuck, Willhoit is a top notch dealer. I buy and sell through him all the time.. He has had that car in inventory more than twice I believe... People buy them and then trade them for something different.. as just recently that car came back to him and the owner took a Twin Turbo 993 that Willhoit had in stock. Just like when I bought a 16k 87 shark from him, drove it a bit then traded it back and got a 993 convertible for my wife.. You guys have to friggin relax for godsake, and not to be boisterous or anything, but what the hell do you care anyway.. there is a very hard core market for sharks, and when it comes to GTS's forget about it with that kind of mileage... just because it doesn't make sense to some of you , doesn't mean that others think it is a fair price to be exlusive. Just like when people think it is crazy that 97-98 S body 993's with under 10k miles, cost as much as a base 997... that is just the way it friggin is... I just bought and sold a Twin Turbo S , 97 through Willhoit, and it ain't that much different than a normal one, and it brought like 35-40k more than a normal one, why exclusivity only 181 in the US, and GTS's are only 15 or so right, so you do the math... Just friggin relax, people like Willhoit etc, uphold your resale value, send a damn Christmas card this year and just say thank you.
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:26 AM
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What is wrong with me? My original reaction was "oh ****, 23k screws up the value of our cars" Then I see Wilhoit and I think "Whew, that should help values". Am I selfish for not feeling bad that a fellow Rennlister might not make a much better buy than I have? Or am I just being normal, wanting to see values of something I might have to sell being supported in a vigorous market place.
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:47 AM
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Old owner gets screwed, new owner gets screwed, but both of them are happy about it so who cares.

Either of them get curious might as well make this thread easy to find. Cars.com info below.

1993 Porsche 928 GTS - $23,496
Dealer: Chambers Motorcars
Call: 888-941-3264
About This 928
Mileage: 27,774
Body Style: Coupe
Exterior Color: Red
Stock #: M219166A
VIN: WP0AA2920PS820062

Nobody here is really suffering for lack of a better Porsche, so who gets it isn't that big of a deal IMHO. Maybe the thing to do on the next car like this is whoever gets a deposit in first works out a hand off to somebody else if they decide they don't want it themselves.
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