S-4 cam re-grind
A quick question for the cam experts. Can S-4 cams from a 87 S-4 be re-ground to gave the same profile as the GT cams and then be used in a 1990 GT.
Thanks Dan 1990 928GT |
There are only two ways I know to get S4 cams to GT spec. and beyond. Most modify the cams beyond the GT specs. Devek's B1 cams are an example.
One is to have them welded. This is both expensive and not recommended for street use. The other way is to have the base circle cut down and use lash caps. There are several motors running using this method, but it's not ideal. Are your current GT cams bad? |
Thanks John.
My cams are ok but I saw a great deal on some used S4 cams and I was wondering if they could be modified for use on a 928GT. I would have them modified and keep them as spares. Dan 1990 928GT |
Something like this? Yes these are for an S4 - the one in my sig:
https://members.rennlist.com/hacker_.../cam%20A7s.jpg More pics are on the way. |
Thanks Hacker, who did the work and what sort of cost are we looking at?
Dan 1990 928GT |
Okay, Spill it Erik.
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yeah, any more info on this topic?? so how do devek do there cams, are they welded?? im sure i remember marc saying he had problems with some welded cams a while ago...
i had my GTS cams reprofiled with a smaller base circle and it took them very close to GT spec and i was still able to use the existing lifters without lash caps. |
Originally Posted by BrendanC
Okay, Spill it Erik.
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Phil at 928 developements still does cams. I have no experience with his products, but they are an option:
http://www.928developments.com/stree...t_packages.htm |
Originally Posted by hans14914
Phil at 928 developements still does cams. I have no experience with his products
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
According to Don Hanson's past-experience with Phil Threshie and his cams, there's no way I would do it.
Hammer |
Cams
They were done at Elgin Cams, same place and same welded up method
as Mark Anderson has in his mtr, They are GT cams to start with, then welded then hard surfaced. This method done by Dema Elgin himself has proven to be reliable enough for Mark's race motor for the last ten years -- thats good enough for me. The specs are int - dur exh - dur 274 270 int - lift exh - lift .412 .388 The base circle was not altered 944 S2 springs ported heads & big valves |
The ’85-86 32V cams are very close to GT profile but they need extensive machining to fit into the S4 head.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
The ’85-86 32V cams are very close to GT profile but they need extensive machining to fit into the S4 head.
I forgot to take pictures of this design the last time I was there. Hopefully I'll be there again this weekend dropping off my new SC pulley for modifications. I'll take some pics of the modified cams. |
not extensive. a sleeve that is welded together, around, not to, the 85cam and they (85cams) are close to identical to the GT cams (or the cams on the holbert car)
here is the before and after pics. MK
Originally Posted by Imo000
The ’85-86 32V cams are very close to GT profile but they need extensive machining to fit into the S4 head.
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