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Old 12-12-2005, 12:20 AM
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Not only is it a huge job, but everything that can break, does, and not only that but you end up forgetting which way this and that hose route and having to re-do things once everything is bolted over it. like banjo bolts on steering rack hoses. ... plus worst of all, WIYT, you find 1000 other things that may as well be corrected replaced, fixed and improved.
Old 12-12-2005, 12:48 AM
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When I started my tb/wp job I also got into removing basically everything on top of the heads so I could have some parts powdercoated and replace the 25 year old gaskets and hoses. My digital camera came in very handy! I took pictures of everying. Especially each part as I was taking it off. When it comes back to putting everything back on (tb/wp is done, just waiting to get powdercoated parts back) the pictures will be worth a thousand words. And I won't have to waste the time of everyone on rennlist asking question about where the heck these parts go. But as far as breaking things, I guess theres not much that can be done about that.
Old 12-12-2005, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by heinrich
... plus worst of all, WIYT, you find 1000 other things that may as well be corrected replaced, fixed and improved.
You need a wife that says "What the hell are you cleaning that piece for? Just put the damn thing back together already...."

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Old 12-12-2005, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard S
You need a wife
No he doesn't. If he had one of those he wouldn't have so many 928s.
Old 12-12-2005, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingDog
No he doesn't. If he had one of those he wouldn't have so many 928s.
So true...
Old 12-12-2005, 03:38 AM
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Don't worry H, I know what I'm doing. I have a system. What could go wrong.
Old 12-12-2005, 04:13 AM
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I thought all you had to do was make sure the the pulleys side faced forward and the oil pan side was at the bottom...or was that the other way around
Old 12-12-2005, 11:39 AM
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When I did my '82 I changed the whole unibody, and the way it went was that I pulled every single part off the old unibody, tagged them or put them in boxes which said where they were and what they did, and cataloged everything. Then, almost a year later I stated reassembly with the new unibody. I have been driving the car and tinkering on it for something like 15 years and I still have a big box of parts that I can't identify. Runs good though.
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A digital camera is a must have, take more pics than you think you need. Priceless.

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Old 12-12-2005, 11:46 AM
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Erkka, Keithster, it's not that it's difficult. it's that you have to do it regularly to learn where everything goes. At that point it's no biggie but all the mistakes you have to undo, layered-over by swaybar; hoses; covers; alternator; etc etc .... that's the big deal.
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I bought a '60 corvette once. I had a blown engine. I got another engine and was all set to put it in. The car was far from imaculate, but it would have run and been registerable. IE I could have enjoyed it while I worked on it.......Buuuuuut Noooooooooooooooo.....I couldn't leave well enough alone. I HAD to take the body off and do a frame up restoration......I spent the better part of a couple years at it and ran out of money.....ended up selling it off to members of the local club that were able to take advantage of my being in too deep and not getting it road worthy......

I learned my lesson......never did that again.....No matter what you are gonna do to a car you really like, one project at a time.....just so you can enjoy it enough to remember why you put so much effort into it......
Old 12-12-2005, 11:55 AM
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karl that is entirely credible. I can totally see that. Gretch, let's hope my already-15-month-project actually gets to hit the road soon. It's so close. You look at the engine and it's all there. Then you look more closely and you see oh, the steering knuckle is too close to that hose ... oh, the O2 sensor grommit isn't in; oh, the cooling flaps may as well come out; oh, the spoiler has to come off for that; oh, may as well replace the dead fuel hoses; oh, may as well reroute things and toss that stupid cooler; oh, may as well pull that silly windshield filler neck; oh, the wheel and fender liner have to come off for that and and and ...
Old 12-12-2005, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gretch
I learned my lesson......never did that again.....No matter what you are gonna do to a car you really like, one project at a time.....just so you can enjoy it enough to remember why you put so much effort into it......
You just have to know when WYAIT turns into a swirling vortex around the drain.

Really tempting during an engine job when another $50 or $100 here and there doesn't move the total price much. Until you look back and all the bits have added up. Factor in the risk of each change being a source of problems and you can easily end up in expensive, frustrating failure.

Let me add that as an engineering manager I fight these battles continuously. Better to have something that works than to have the perfect result planned and part-way executed. Of course, the engineers don't all think like that and that's why I'm the boss!
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Glen you are correct. However, the job is so mammoth, it'd be like going after a faulty valve in a jet engine, and realising along the way that you should go with better-shaped blades, as well as newer alloy fuel lines and .....
Old 12-12-2005, 12:35 PM
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Now you understand H. Now, you understand.


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