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Awesome...................
Please try to come up with a conversion kit for the existing (Jag/Eaton) setup, so I can clean up my "messy" plumming under the hood.
Please try to come up with a conversion kit for the existing (Jag/Eaton) setup, so I can clean up my "messy" plumming under the hood.
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Now, to figure out which one get's the S/C...
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Magnificent finish. Very hard not to be impressed. And the pricing is spectacular. It is really inspiring to see how deep the aftermarket is for this car.........It has to be unique in the auto industry, especially considering it is aimed at a low production foreign model that has not been produced for over 10 years. There are going to be a lot of these kits sold. My hat is off to you Dave.
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Hi Brian,
>I know for certain that I would be interested in the air intake and dual TB kit; however, DR states >that his autorotor sits quite a bit farther away from the firewall.
>Do you think it could be made to fit the earlier Keel kits?
To install the complete Twin Throttle Body setup, which would also give you the Twin Filter/Air Hose setup you would need approx 9" of clearance measured from the metal "trim band" (just below the hood/cowl seal) to the rear mounting plate of your SC. You could possibly "fudge" maybe another inch of clearance by cutting an inch off of your MAF sensor (which can be done easily, but is the max you can "trim"). With our setup and position of the SC (front SC Cover is approx 1/2" from coolant crossover) we can run an Autorotor 417 or 420 without any mods.
Try to keep in mind that at first glance our system looks like the earlier systems, but in reality the ONLY part that is the same is probably the lower intake, everything else is completely different, including the height of the intake.
>Can we get a picture without the cover to help gauge how much room is >taken up back there by the maf and other goodies?
Too funny, I expected the first post to ask to see under the cover! I am amazed it took so look for someone to ask! :-) I will probably post some pics of that later today, we are in the middle of more changes and I have to go pick up 100 sway bars today and help get them ready for shipping! Also when I do post the pics please keep in mind that these are the original fabricated parts that have been hacked on, changed, etc approx 40-50 times over 3 months and they ain't pretty!
>I assume the blow off valve is also back there somewhere..
Bypass Valve, MAF, Throttle bodies, TPS, Idle stabilizer, Intake air temp switch, remote fuel pressure adjuster, vacuum ports for brake booster, charcoal evap, etc, are all under there
>What's in the black can to the left of the cover,
>above the washer filler neck in the most recent picture?
Actually if you look, that is in all of the pics and is the Air/Oil Separator. I have been extremely pleased with the results from that part (especially since it ain't cheap) as it has performed incredibly! If you look close at the pics I am running all clear lines for the oil breather system to monitor it's effectiveness, even the oil return line to the oil pan is clear. After over 2 weeks of daily "run as hard as I can" many times during the day, the passenger side vent lines and oil return line have yellowed from the oil, yet the "air outlet" of the Separator has barely a trace of oil residue on it. I can wipe my finger inside the air outlet fitting and do not feel any oil residue (pretty scientific, huh :-). This has prompted me to feel comfortable enough to run the air outlet back in to the front of one of the air filters so we have a totally closed system and the vacuum created will help even more with the oil vapors. With the clear filter housings it will be easy to monitor if this system is not doing it's job and a secondary effect is the filter will get a little bit of "free oiling" since it is an "oiled" type filter and that will also help keep it from going back into the engine. This of course can vary from car to car depending on it's "health" and the amount of blowby. With my 90GT that has 110K miles on it there is no trace of any issues so far. We are monitoring this very closely and if this becomes a problem the air outlet can be plumbed thru a separate filter, catch can or even feed back thru the air pump if desired.
>I know for certain that I would be interested in the air intake and dual TB kit; however, DR states >that his autorotor sits quite a bit farther away from the firewall.
>Do you think it could be made to fit the earlier Keel kits?
To install the complete Twin Throttle Body setup, which would also give you the Twin Filter/Air Hose setup you would need approx 9" of clearance measured from the metal "trim band" (just below the hood/cowl seal) to the rear mounting plate of your SC. You could possibly "fudge" maybe another inch of clearance by cutting an inch off of your MAF sensor (which can be done easily, but is the max you can "trim"). With our setup and position of the SC (front SC Cover is approx 1/2" from coolant crossover) we can run an Autorotor 417 or 420 without any mods.
Try to keep in mind that at first glance our system looks like the earlier systems, but in reality the ONLY part that is the same is probably the lower intake, everything else is completely different, including the height of the intake.
>Can we get a picture without the cover to help gauge how much room is >taken up back there by the maf and other goodies?
Too funny, I expected the first post to ask to see under the cover! I am amazed it took so look for someone to ask! :-) I will probably post some pics of that later today, we are in the middle of more changes and I have to go pick up 100 sway bars today and help get them ready for shipping! Also when I do post the pics please keep in mind that these are the original fabricated parts that have been hacked on, changed, etc approx 40-50 times over 3 months and they ain't pretty!
>I assume the blow off valve is also back there somewhere..
Bypass Valve, MAF, Throttle bodies, TPS, Idle stabilizer, Intake air temp switch, remote fuel pressure adjuster, vacuum ports for brake booster, charcoal evap, etc, are all under there
>What's in the black can to the left of the cover,
>above the washer filler neck in the most recent picture?
Actually if you look, that is in all of the pics and is the Air/Oil Separator. I have been extremely pleased with the results from that part (especially since it ain't cheap) as it has performed incredibly! If you look close at the pics I am running all clear lines for the oil breather system to monitor it's effectiveness, even the oil return line to the oil pan is clear. After over 2 weeks of daily "run as hard as I can" many times during the day, the passenger side vent lines and oil return line have yellowed from the oil, yet the "air outlet" of the Separator has barely a trace of oil residue on it. I can wipe my finger inside the air outlet fitting and do not feel any oil residue (pretty scientific, huh :-). This has prompted me to feel comfortable enough to run the air outlet back in to the front of one of the air filters so we have a totally closed system and the vacuum created will help even more with the oil vapors. With the clear filter housings it will be easy to monitor if this system is not doing it's job and a secondary effect is the filter will get a little bit of "free oiling" since it is an "oiled" type filter and that will also help keep it from going back into the engine. This of course can vary from car to car depending on it's "health" and the amount of blowby. With my 90GT that has 110K miles on it there is no trace of any issues so far. We are monitoring this very closely and if this becomes a problem the air outlet can be plumbed thru a separate filter, catch can or even feed back thru the air pump if desired.
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Hi Adam,
>I've also got the jag/eaton kit and would be interested in purchasing the dual air intake kit.
>Can you make one?
I will be happy to work on an upgrade path for the Supermodel kits if is at all possible. FWIW, the Jag/eaton kits look to have the best possibility of being adapted to our new system. However our first priority is to get our new kits shipping and the development of our 16 valve kits. Once this has all stabilized I will be happy to supply some of the items from my kits with everyone. I have also established wholesale accounts with lots of supercharger type product companies and will be offering these items individually. Please just give me a little time to get everything going smoothly.
>I've also got the jag/eaton kit and would be interested in purchasing the dual air intake kit.
>Can you make one?
I will be happy to work on an upgrade path for the Supermodel kits if is at all possible. FWIW, the Jag/eaton kits look to have the best possibility of being adapted to our new system. However our first priority is to get our new kits shipping and the development of our 16 valve kits. Once this has all stabilized I will be happy to supply some of the items from my kits with everyone. I have also established wholesale accounts with lots of supercharger type product companies and will be offering these items individually. Please just give me a little time to get everything going smoothly.
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Thanks for all the positive comments.
I was very pleased when I first found out that Dave wanted to take over production, sales and support of my systems as I didn't want to see an end to them. As most know I had decided to quit production due to lack of time for it anymore. As Derek says, "It's hard when you are a one man band".
Dave could have just gone with the existing poduct line as the Supermodel systems are solid and work just fine. The easy route would have been to clean them up a bit and just continue on prevoius success. But we decided to address the few shortcomings of the supermodel systems. The only real widespread issue that people seemed to be dis-satisfied with with the supermodel systems was the apperance of the air inlet to the supercharger and the walking of the PS belt once it streched on '87+. In 2005 Autorotor started making the casings on the twin-screws shorter. This gave more flexibility of design layout and allowed the MAF to fit behind the SC. The changes also allowed the SC to be run off the stock crank pulley. The result is a system that has a much better apperance, has a better air filter and throttle body setup, actually has about 15% fewer parts, and takes less time to install because the pullies don't have to be changed.
To make this happen, every single part had to be changed in some way and many new parts had to be designed. I made made many changes from the supermodel system and did the basic layout. Then Dave took the last few months and God only knows how much money, made even more changes and specified and designed more parts. He wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than a show quality fit and finsh and that is what he has achieved. The pictures don't even do it justice, just wait untill you see it in person.
Andy K
I was very pleased when I first found out that Dave wanted to take over production, sales and support of my systems as I didn't want to see an end to them. As most know I had decided to quit production due to lack of time for it anymore. As Derek says, "It's hard when you are a one man band".
Dave could have just gone with the existing poduct line as the Supermodel systems are solid and work just fine. The easy route would have been to clean them up a bit and just continue on prevoius success. But we decided to address the few shortcomings of the supermodel systems. The only real widespread issue that people seemed to be dis-satisfied with with the supermodel systems was the apperance of the air inlet to the supercharger and the walking of the PS belt once it streched on '87+. In 2005 Autorotor started making the casings on the twin-screws shorter. This gave more flexibility of design layout and allowed the MAF to fit behind the SC. The changes also allowed the SC to be run off the stock crank pulley. The result is a system that has a much better apperance, has a better air filter and throttle body setup, actually has about 15% fewer parts, and takes less time to install because the pullies don't have to be changed.
To make this happen, every single part had to be changed in some way and many new parts had to be designed. I made made many changes from the supermodel system and did the basic layout. Then Dave took the last few months and God only knows how much money, made even more changes and specified and designed more parts. He wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than a show quality fit and finsh and that is what he has achieved. The pictures don't even do it justice, just wait untill you see it in person.
Andy K
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As far as the dual TB system being compatible with the existing Supermodel systems....
I think it can be done for the jag/eaton systems, with just a few new parts.
For the twin-screw systems, there would be more significant changes. The MAF would have to be shortened significantly or eliminated alltogether via a MAP conversion. I believe the SMT 7 can do the MAF to MAP conversion.
HTH,
Andy
I think it can be done for the jag/eaton systems, with just a few new parts.
For the twin-screw systems, there would be more significant changes. The MAF would have to be shortened significantly or eliminated alltogether via a MAP conversion. I believe the SMT 7 can do the MAF to MAP conversion.
HTH,
Andy