Ron_H

I have a friend who lives near San Diego and he says he gets his deisel tanks refilled on his cars for 2 in Mexico. Just goes down there and fills up and laughs all the way back home. Does this sound possible?

blau928

yes ron... possible...

Jim bailey - 928 International

Regular gasoline is about $ 2.25 per gallon in Mexico. Pemex is the third largest producing company in the world at 463,000 barrels per day yet Mexico still imports 157,000 barrels per day. The government taxes are on a sliding scale and decrease as crude prices increase. Pemex is said to be sibsidizing the current low price. Flour is also heavily subsidized keeping the cost of bread quite low . Which with minimum wage at something like $8 per DAY is understandable.

Kaz

I'll do you one better. Last weekend I drove my sister and her boyfriend up to Santa Maria where they bought a used 300SD Turbodiesel Mercedes Benz that was equiped with an extra fuel filter in order to run on straight Vegetable oil. The conversion included a small auxilary tank where you could still run diesel.

So if you get brand new Veggie oil from Costco you just pour it in and if you get used Veggie oil from a Chinese restaurant you should filter it first. I spent about a half hour flogging one of the other Benzes around and could tell no difference power wise but the cars lost the diesel clacking when they were on straight Veggie. I'm pretty much sold on the idea and the Audi S4 is probably gonna go bye bye.

morganabowen

My wife and I go down there every couple of weeks, and fill up before coming back. It is about $2.25 per gallon for 87 oct. The problem is that you wait a hour or more crossing back, that there doesn't seem to be any real advantage

Red UFO

The Mexican government owns the oil so that way you can't have greedy old bastards in Exxon rob you blind, then they blame China, no new refineries, and SUV while they profit 110 million a day.

The US should seize the US oil companies and us tax payers own it since we are paying thru the ***. Screw them, we probably won't have as many wars too!

Supply and demand has nothing to do with it. Its the lack of ***** and stupidity of consumers who believe Big Oil talking points and enable them to hold us hostage at the pump. A nation of full of idiots gets what they have coming.

Ron_H

I seem to remember a time in our nation's history when there were anti-trust laws. I'm sure AT&T remember those well, also. Where are those laws now?
Have they been ignored by the "best government money can buy"???

I'm starting to think turbo diesel, but the veggie idea seems attractive, since I am a vegan already anyway. What I don't eat, I can dump in my car's tank. Now if I can just figure out a way to capture flatulance from the beans......

BC

Seize? Like where mexico "seizes" a rail line in "Atlas Shrugged" - Are you a looter? Just asking.

Nicole

LOL! And I thought Vegans don't have flatulence because they eat so well... Just kidding!

I wasn't aware that you can run diesel engines on just veggie oil. How long before veggie oil becomes an expensive commodity?

Almost all of my friends in Germany drive turbo diesel cars - they are a little more expensive to buy, but use so much less fuel, and are a lot of fun to drive due to their torque. There is a "BIO diesel" fuel available in Germany, but I'm not sure how it is formulated - but I know it's not regular veggie oil, and the latest diesels with particle filter can't use it.

FlyingDog

Jim, Mexico is a net exporter of oil and we're the biggest customer.

Nicole, Bio diesel is veggie oil refined with a mixture of lye and ethanol or methanol. The result is biodiesel, glycerin, soap(if there's any water in the mix), and excess ethanol/methanol which settle in layers. At least that is the small batch or homemade method. There are large industrial ways to make it in linear systems with catalyst screens like in a catalytic converter.

B5 (5% bio, 95% petro) diesel can be run in any diesel engine. B20 can be used in any diesel car, but not all industrial engine. B80 can be run in any diesel car that have all fuel lines and seals made of proper materials. B100 can be used like B80, but may have cold start problems. Adding 1% biodiesel to regular diesel increases the lubricity by over 50%, so it will be the ideal replacement for sulfur in diesels. It also has a higher cetane rating which basicly means it releases its energy more easily, but contains slightly less energy than petroleum diesel.

Red UFO

Oil is a national security matter. Without cheap oil this country is gonna go down the sh*tter faster than a bottle of water at the Superdome.

Our government seizes things all the time whenever they please. Such as Iraq for instance, we seized a whole country and it's oil. Our gov seizes land whenever it pleases under environmental laws, then sells it to europeans (which own banks and oil). But we only seize oil nations that happen to be poplulated by 'people of color' and not from rich very rich, very white Texans.

If energy dealers raise electricity skyhigh in another staged crisis, it don't take long for politians to call for price controls if they have to.

Brendan, I'm not a looter, or you a crony?

Instead of junkies giving blow jobs for a hit of crack, people are gonna have to give a BJ for a tank of gas if this don't stop.

FlyingDog

Mexico seized there oil industry and bankrupted the country. The only reason they have an oil industry and an economy now is that our government and oil companies were nice enough to bail them out after getting screwed out of tens of billions of dollars.

Try pushing your socialist/borderline-communist utopia elsewhere, Tom.

PS: Mexico is trying it again with the new deals they made with US oil companies. They'll just bankrupt themselves again if they try to steal billions again.

Red UFO

Mexico couldn't manage a burger king and not bankrupt it.

We are pushing socialism right now by doing the exact samething with Iraq, why just say Mexico has WMD and invade?
Ya, only white people who are captialistic pigs like Enron can run energy companies in a free market.


Try pushing your socialist/borderline-communist utopia elsewhere, Tom.

That's Amerika for ya. Always brag about how great we are, all our previous rights we used to have, then tell everyone you disagree with to STFU.

Titor was right, civil war is on the way all the signs are here now, its just a matter of time until its all over.

FlyingDog

What right did you lose by me pointing out that you're a dillusional freak pushing for the government to steal private property and control industry? Do you only think freedom of speech applies to paranoid loons, and not realistic people? Do you realize that you're a raging hypocrit?

Randy V

Um, Matt - Tom tends to add commentary that gets folks riled up. For the most part he's hella-funny. Don't take it too personally.