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Locksmith 06-18-2005 07:16 PM

928 opening (unlocking door) procedures
 
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Here are the 928 opening procedures.

The tool in the illistration is a made out of steel @ twice as thick as clothes hanger wire. It is tempered so it wont lose its shape. The dia. of the circle is @ 2"

The trick is to start back aginst the window frame so the tool will slip behind ( under ) the window and come up under the lock button

If anyone is interested in this tool I could call my supplier and get you a price, or you can make your own if suitable material is available.

This illistration is for the passengers door, HOWEVER it will only work on the drivers side.

Eric

all4woody 06-18-2005 07:54 PM

Eric,
Why will it only work on the driver side door?

Locksmith 06-18-2005 07:59 PM

I do not have that answer. That comment was based on my experience, others may have a diffrent opinion.
Experience is a good teacher. My 2 cents

Eric

Dave H. 06-18-2005 10:17 PM

here's a quick chop flipped for the driver's door, just in case...

http://www.eskimo.com/~riffraff/imag...ing-Manual.jpg

FlyingDog 06-18-2005 10:40 PM

Have you actually gotten that to work? Does it work on both vacuum and electric locks?

I saw a similar tool in the kit I have at work, but the instruction say to insert the tool in some vent (which I don't see on my car). I've pushed down on my lock button pretty hard to see if I could lock it without the knob and it hasn't moved. I wouldn't think that little wire would do much.

Locksmith 06-19-2005 07:15 AM

Yes it works, used this methoid Friday night. Have opened many 928's this way.

The tool you saw at work was a vent tool used on Ford Trucks and older model vehicles. That tool, the bend is offset 90 degrees to push and then turn the vent latch.

FlyingDog 06-19-2005 09:36 AM

The tool looked exactly like what you have pictured. Maybe I read the wrong directions.

justin 06-19-2005 01:36 PM

We just made it easier on a car theif.....LOL

Locksmith 06-19-2005 03:12 PM

Well if the tool you have looks just like the one pictured give it a try, it should be @ 2" in diameter. This tool is included in most automotive lockout kits.

This tool like others take a little practice. You can buy a Grand Panio but it does'nt make you Mosart.

I posted this information because several people asked for it, if you think it is a security violation I will remove it. Just trying to help other 928 owners.

Eric
1985 928S

Ron_H 07-21-2005 01:42 PM

If I wanted to access a car like the 928 and had no authorization to do so, this forum would provide an easy method(s), that's for sure. All I would need to do is claim to be an owner and ask. Nothing personal meant by this comment.

Since I have owned my car, I have ALWAYS had a spare key in my pocket. At one point I closed the door and it locked itself (the button on the dash was activated). But I had left the sunroof open a bit so I was able to reach in and grab the key. Several other times I have left the key on the sill of the luggage compartment and closed the hatch. All I do is reach into my pocket and get my spare key.

There is also an access behind the driver's seat. There, now the theives know another way in.

SteveG 07-21-2005 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Locksmith
Well if the tool you have looks just like the one pictured give it a try, it should be @ 2" in diameter. This tool is included in most automotive lockout kits.

This tool like others take a little practice. You can buy a Grand Panio but it does'nt make you Mosart.

I posted this information because several people asked for it, if you think it is a security violation I will remove it. Just trying to help other 928 owners.

Eric
1985 928S


Eric, By the way, what's your address. I want to send you something.

1981 Shark 07-21-2005 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Locksmith
Here are the 928 opening procedures.

The tool in the illistration is a made out of steel @ twice as thick as clothes hanger wire. It is tempered so it wont lose its shape. The dia. of the circle is @ 2"

The trick is to start back aginst the window frame so the tool will slip behind ( under ) the window and come up under the lock button

If anyone is interested in this tool I could call my supplier and get you a price, or you can make your own if suitable material is available.

This illistration is for the passengers door, HOWEVER it will only work on the drivers side.

Eric

Not to dispute, as I don't have the expertise, but I have witnessed it being done on the passenger's side door; first-hand. Shortly after purchase, I shut the doors after jump starting and central locking system took over; yes running. :banghead:

AND after it was unlocked, the passenger side door lock would no longer work off the central locking system; it came off the actuator, but it's now back on. Talk about a PITA. I was very tempted to break the window, but chose not to; that might have been the better route, but I'll hopefully never know.

As for car thiefs, unless they're really good, it'll take them a while to get it done. It took quite a while when I had to get it done and I don't think the guy who did it was necessarily laid off from NASA. :roflmao:

Lesson learned - Additional spare key in alternate location (other than wife's keychain - she may be out for a while). :banghead:

Randy V 07-21-2005 06:53 PM

Someone reported this post, asking it to be deleted.

In my opinion, it is a nice piece of info that can benefit the community at-large, so it's gonna stay.

You can't honestly believe a thief is going to come to Rennlist to get secrets about stealing these cars do you? A professional thief will just break out a side window, so the concern is moot.

Besides, getting into any car is the easy part - it's getting it started to drive it away that is difficult.

FletchDM 07-21-2005 08:07 PM

It looks like you could eliminate this vulnerability by adding a tube over the vertical rod between the lock mechanism housing and the plastic knob. Basically, make the entire length one diameter so there is no "step" to hook such a tool on.

@ Randy V
When my previous car was stolen, the thief did not break anything. He was "professional" enough to have a special key which apparently worked on every lock, including the ignition.

rhys 05-19-2006 11:31 PM

Can I suggest that this thread be deleted and the information conveyed via PMs? It's easy enough for a car to be stolen without giving blueprints to wannabe car thieves.


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