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bcdavis 04-05-2005 02:02 PM

I figured I would list it here first... my 1983 Euro S...
 
Yep. It's time to say goodbye to my euro...
I've decided to stop dumping money into it, and look for something newer.
Since Rennlist has been so cool, I figured I'd give you guys first crack at it,
before putting it up on ebay. I'm looking for $9,500 or best offer.
And yes I know that is high, and yes, I am willing to take less.
But if someone sees the value in a car that has had a TON of work done on it,
they may be willing to pay for that benefit.
I put up a webpage of hig-res images of the car in it's current condition...

http://www.thedeathknight.com/928/928_4Sale.htm

I also put up a small .wmv of a test drive:

http://www.thedeathknight.com/928/928_Test_Drive.wmv

Here are the details on the car:

1983 Porsche 928s
(European model)
VIN#: WPOZZZ92ZDS840553

Engine:

4.7 Liter V8 engine.
300 horsepower in stock configuration.
Smog certified for CA use. (EPA import sticker)
CIS fuel injection.
Rebuilt fuel distributor.
Polished intake manifold.
All new flow-matched injectors.
Devek high preformance aluminum radiator.
Devek lower temperature thermostat.
MSDS headers.
Flowmaster muffler.
Monza resonator.
Dual high-flow catalytic converters.
H-Pipe crossover.
3" exhaust tubing.
Nology high preformance spark-plug wires.
Breather tank setup for engine blowby.
Rebuilt heads, valve job.
New alternator.
Replaced *all* engine seals and gaskets to eliminate leaks.
New motor mounts.
R-134 air conditioning upgrade with new compressor, etc...
New oil cooler lines.
New warm-up regulator.
New vaccuum lines.
New fan clutch.
New heater control valve.
New timing belt. (152,000 miles, inspected recently-looks great)
New water pump.
New engine wiring harness.
New oil pan gasket.
New fuel pump.
New fuel filter.
New engine undertray.

Suspension/Brakes:

I have upgraded to the 928 s4 suspension and big brakes.
All new shocks. (Boge)
Ott adjustable sway bar drop links both front and rear.
Alignment done recently.
BBS mesh wheels.
Tires: 225/50/16 in the front and 245/45/16 in the rear.
Front sway bar is yellow.
Steel ball joint upgrade.
New s4 brake calipers and pads.
New brake disks.
Stainless steel braided brake lines.

Transmission/drivetrain:

I have a rebuilt transmission.
New torque tube.
New transmission cooler lines.

Interior:

The original blue interior was replaced with a black interior.
Sony mp3 CD player/radio.
2 Amplifiers, 1000+ watts of power.
Equalizer with in-dash subwoofer control.
"The Crunch" 10" subwoofer in band-pass enclosure.
New high-performance speakers:
2 drivers in each door, along with one tweeter in each door.
2 speakers in the rear seating area, and two 6x9's in the far back area.
Momo steering wheel.
Jager carbon tip shifer and leather boot.
New shifter enclosure.
New heater and air conditioning control unit.
New vaccuum valves and solenoids.
New window switches.
Recovered dash pod.
All dash lights work.
All warning lights work properly.
All warning indicators are in german.
All interior lights are new.
New battery.

Exterior:

Repainted to metallic grey.
Miata aero mirrors added.
All door sills, etc, also painted.
Removed and filled-in all the ugly US federalization marker lights.
Removed and filled roof antenna.
Filled front spoiler mounting holes.
New rear fog-light indicator lens.
New rear turn signal lenses.
New Porsche sticker for the rear of car in custom black color.
New 928S and V8 sticker custom made in black in Porsche font.
Added fender beading to rear hatch seal area.
European headlights.
European fog light lenses.
European turn signals on side of fender.
No front license plate bracket.
Rear windows have 85% limo tint, front 10% tint.

Good things about the car:

This is a really fast car. It handles like it is on rails, and yet it handles bumps very well.
The seats are incredibly comfortable on long trips. The exhaust note is deep and powerful.
It brakes very well. It can handle extremely high speeds with no fuss.
It has a top speed of 160 MPH, which I have verified...
I have fixed pretty much everything that ever went wrong with this car,
and fixed anything I possibly could. It has been *very* well-maintained over the past 9 years.
I never let even the smallest thing go un-fixed.

Bad things about the car:

The car has crankcase blow-by, that usually gets fed back into the intake manifold.
I routed this blowby to a Pegasus Racing catch can, because I do not want my engine
to injest oil blowby, and foul up my new fuel injectors. So I have it vented to the catch can,
at the front of the car. So it drips foamy oil milkshake on the ground occasionally.
Other than the occasional blowby drip, the car is in great condition and runs perfectly.
The exterior is in good shape, as seen in the photos.
It does not have a front spoiler, because I like the look of the car better without it.
The interior is also in pretty decent shape. The seats have some wear and tear, but are not horrible.
There are a couple small tears in the headliner that were patched at some point.
But it generally looks pretty nice.

I have repaired and replaced anything that has been a problem,
and upgraded many areas of the vehicle.
It was purchased for $9,000, and had $60,000 put into it over the past 9 years,
in repairs and upgrades. In some ways, that should scare you, about the price of repairs
on these cars. On the other hand, it shows you that I have already repaired or replaced
the majority of the things that can go wrong with one of these older models.

If you are interested in the car, send me an e-mail or PM.
If you want to set up a time to see the car, or talk about the car on the phone, let me know...

Styln928 04-05-2005 04:15 PM

bc . . . that car is so sweet. :thumbup: I don't know how you are going to live with yourself when it's gone. :confused:

bcdavis 04-05-2005 04:22 PM

It's just that I have to come to terms with my obsessive nature.

I will never be happy until my 928 is like a new car.

So it would be better for me to get a GTS, or build a 928 from the ground up...

Green Goblin 04-05-2005 04:50 PM

Sorry to hear that your selling your car, it should be a sweet ride for someone. Good luck in your search.

Andy

Abby Normal 04-05-2005 05:20 PM

I think $9500 is a awesome price for the amount of TLC your ride has had put in it...hate to see you sell it, however it sounds like another Shark is in the future..

drnick 04-05-2005 05:41 PM

man, dont do it. selling your car as it stands now dosent seem to make sense financialy, and furthermore it is not a cure for obsessionality!! if you buy another car it will only start again. maybe getting rid of this car will only remove what seems to be a painful reminder of 'the condition'.

but of course i shouldnt give advice, especialy as i seem similarly aflicted!!

checkmate1996 04-06-2005 02:47 AM

Wow, Great looking ride...I wouldn't mind upgrading!! :)

1981 Shark 04-06-2005 10:56 AM

I agree with drnick, you've come this far and you know what has been done and what hasn't; you most likely won't have that luxury with another one. IMHO, you've spent too much time and effort to give up now. :thumbup:

Enjoyed the virtual test drive; there for a minute I was afraid I was going to get a virtual ticket. :roflmao:

David

checkmate1996 04-06-2005 11:01 AM

I agree with what they said...however sometimes....your heart sets you another direction! When you say newer are you sticking with Porsche?

bcdavis 04-06-2005 01:19 PM

Yes, I will eventually get a newer 928.
Probably supercharge it.

But for now I am not sure.
I may sell my truck as well, and pick up a brand new daily driver
(with a warrantee), then save for the new 928 toy...

Weissach 04-06-2005 02:22 PM

I have to agree with bcdavis on this one. At this point, the interior it looks pretty bad. It would take mucho $$ to make it look decent, even more if you want it to look nice.

$9,500 is alot of money for the condition of this car. But if you really think that you can get that much for it, then it's totally worth it. But if say, it brings in closer to $5,000, then your better off buying an interior of a newer car....

I've sold MANY 928's over the years, so hear are my .02 cents. This might seem contrarary to what you've heard on the web boards but, most buyers look for a nice interior over great mechanical condition. Why? Because 928s are very easy to work on and used parts are cheap. Any newbe mechanic can have a 928 running in top condition. However, getting a nice interior is very hard.....

Styln928 04-06-2005 03:24 PM

I'd rather do an interior work than mechanical work any day. Radio/electrical/speakers/panels are a snap compared to some mechanical monsters i've come across. Just my .02

bcdavis 04-06-2005 03:25 PM

Exactly.

I know I will need to spend a ton of additional cash to get the interior into "like new" condition.
Then I will need to deal with the issues regarding supercharging, and the idea of a body kit.
Overall, I know that I will end up dumping even more money into the car.

It's just not the best idea right now.

And yes, I know the price is high.

If I can get it, that would be great, but I know I am much more likely to sell it for less.
It just depends if I can come across a buyer that is willing to pay for all the extra
goodies this car has on it, and all the extra repairs. I remember looking at
OBs, and many of them were in horrible shape. So I don't think it is that
easy or cheap to get one into perfect mechanical condition. So it may be
worth it to someone who is looking for a really nice OB, that already
has fixed all the impending problems. Seriously, the only thing that
hasn't been rebuilt or replaced, is the bottom end on the engine.
Everything else is pretty much brand new. So the transmission,
CIS system, etc, should all last another 20 years...

heinrich 04-06-2005 03:31 PM

I think most 928 savvy people will not pay the value of a 928 (or anywhere near it) unless they are very well-off, period.

The only other people who will pay anywhere near the actual value of a 928, are people who don't know the cars at all.

I've tried selling several 928's. Haven't ever sold one (except to help a local friend out when his car was destroyed, and that was more like a favour). I've sold 944's and those are like any other car. You post the price and people buy them. Not so with 928. This is why I have:

1) US '85 auto with interior, engine, tranny and body that look BRAND NEW except for a few small pain dings on the front corner and one small dent on the passenger door. 84k miles marble grey
2) Euro '85 auto with ok exterior and ok leather interior. 81k miles black on black.
People would love to buy the cars till they realise

a) I'm not selling anything for 5k
b) The US car has rebuilt title from a fender bashing that required a new fender only, and has windshield crack.
c) The Euro needs interior pieces and one door replaced cause they tried to break in there.

What does one do? First I have learnt, never try to sell to other 928 owners.

PorKen 04-06-2005 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by heinrich
First I have learnt, never try to sell to other 928 owners.

Unfortunate, but true - if you want to make any money. :)
...

BC,

I would perhaps replace the words 'crankcase blowby' with, for example, 'crank vapors', in your text. Blowby comes off negative. All cars have it, but I wouldn't emphasize it.
:cheers:


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