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Old 11-12-2004, 12:36 PM
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My GTS recommends 93... that was a shocker... I plan to test the supercharged car with both 91 and then with an octaine booster and see what the difference is. Used to get 92 octaine before 9-11 now can't find it. Which is funny since I live 4 miles from a bunch of refineries. Go figure.
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by heinrich
From my law studies, I am unfamiliar with the ability to copyright one's posts online ...
I'm pretty sure part of the Rennlist agreement we all had to check before joining gives John D 100% rights to every post on Rennlist. By posting here you give up all rights to any content to John.
Old 11-12-2004, 02:49 PM
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I have to go back a few years to my law school days, but IIRC, The Digital Millennium Coyright Act was enacted in '98. The Act implements the provisions of two international treaties, which will give writers, artists, and other creators of copyrighted material global protection form piracy. The same rules apply as far as what can be protected. Rights granted by statute to authors or orginators of literary, musical, or artisitc productions.

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Old 11-12-2004, 02:51 PM
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Tony,
I am trying to get a handle onthe limits of reliabile SC applications. Long ago I applied a 4-6 psi limit as to the boost that would have minimal effect on SC 928 engines..the safe limit. It now sppears" to be around 6-8 psi. But not the reputed 11-14 psi 550 rwhp yeilding boost.

The folks producing and recommending the 6-8 psi intercooled boost level might have found the sweet spot between MTBF of head gaskets and fun!

Do we have a apples to apples comp (dyno chart) between a vortech and a twin screw at exactly the same boost level and fuel?

DEVEK radiators - can be made with twin fan shrouds mounted to the rad..........email me privately at marc@DEVEK.net.

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we sign away our rights to the info that we post to John when we choose to participate on this list. In addiiton, anyone reading this list can also do with the information as they please, unless John finds out.

If he wanted to, he could sell this "info" for the purpose of writing a book of knowledge on 928s...John is a good guy, and would never sell out!

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Old 11-12-2004, 02:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure part of the Rennlist agreement we all had to check before joining gives John D 100% rights to every post on Rennlist. By posting here you give up all rights to any content to John.
Absolutely incorrect. The Rennlist charter states just the opposite. Everyone has copyright to what they post.
In keeping with Copyright law, Rennlist considers that the content of messages posted to any of the lists will remain the copyrighted material of its author, as the "original author", unless the author specifically assigns copyright otherwise. Rennlist is considered a "forwarder" or "publisher", and the combined "list/site messages" to be considered as "archives", protected under Rennlist Copyright. Posts containing material which is protected under copyright, which a person does not have express permission to use, resell, distribute or otherwise make available are grounds for immediate termination of that user
By this too John D has permission to use any material I and anyone posts.

This thread is coing to get very convoluted soon.


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Marc - the red S4 up here running 22psi is on pump gas, so is Tim Murphy's. Until winter, the Red 22psi car is a daily driver.
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Copyright sounds pretty simple to me. This quote is from http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#hsc
Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work is "created" when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time.
That means a post or picture dosen't even need the copyright notice.
Everything that any person writes anywhere including on rennlist is copyrighted to that person automatically.

And registration with the copyright office is very simple too.

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Hmmm ... interesting Andy .... it appears you do indeed have copyright over each and every one of your posts. Good work
Heinrich,
Everyone else does to each of their posts as well. I just have mine noticed.

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Andy - big question, what copy write overwrites what copy write? I have been shooting professionally for about 15 years. If I take a picture of Paul Tracy's car and try to sell it or post is on my site, I can be sued for copy write infringement by Players (or whoever the sponsor is) or by the team themselves. It's very rare that cases like this ever happen, but it could.

A friend of mine runs all the t-shirt stands at Road America. There was a big fight when he put a Newman/Haas car on a t-shirt to be sold only at Road America. The picture was taken on private property (Road America) and being sold by Road America. Newman/Haas didn't see it that way, their car was their property, they were "renting" the track for that weekend. It was a mess. This was at least 10 years ago, I'm sure the contracts have been re-written since then.
I've even seen where people selling vintage race photo's were being harrassed by the companies who's name is on the car saying they have no right to sell anything with their name on it. The pictures were 20+ years old. It's getting very silly and will only get worse.
Ever hear of this group?

http://pacaoffice.org/resources/specialReleases.html

According to this group, you posting a pic of a Porsche for your company is in violation of the Porsche copywrite. On a Digital Photography site I belong to, this company caused quite a stir going after people posting pics of public landmarks that have been added to their "list".
I'm old school and agree with you that anything I take a picture of is 100% mine to do whatever I want with as long as it doesn't deface anybody or cause harm.
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Andy - big question, what copy write overwrites what copy write?
Not for me though. I'm not selling photographs of anything. As I mentioned I am only concerned about the negative use of MY proprietary information. Information that would not exist if it weren't for me. As I mentioned the copyright mark is there on my posts to help expedite the punishment of anyone that would use it in a negative fashion such as ripping someone off on e-bay. I consider it at least a step towards proper stewardship.

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Andy, I understand why your adding the copywrite, no argument there, just sharing some info on the overall topic.

When I helped a friend start using ebay many years ago to sell some car parts and stuff he had lying around his shop, we found people steeling his pics right away for their auctions. All of the auctions were legit, they were just too lazy to use their own pics. Half the time they were using pics that were close, but not exactly the same thing. Then we started adding his address across every picture. Even that didn't stop everyone.


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