Is the 928 Forum the ruler of RL?
 

Anybody else notice that the 928 forum has, by far, the most number of posts of any RL forum? It’s not even close. The 993 forum looks to be the closest- and it’s like 400k posts behind this one. Maybe somebody already mentioned this in another thread on this forum, to be honest I didn’t check the other 2530 pages within.
In either event, what a great community! Thanks everybody and have a great 2020!

6.5.0

Well, its the least changed car ever made I think...

The 928 stayed a 928..from 77-95.

The "911" changes ever 18 months it seems.

I've been here since 2004 on the 993 forum, 944 forum, 911 G-model forum, Cayenne forum and the 928 forum. The 928 forum is the best by far. Then the 944 forum. For the 911 forums I found pelican to be the better ones.

that’s a good point- there are like 6 911s and only one 928. Well tough ****, we’re the best anyway!

If you lumped all the “911” forums covering ~’77 to ‘95 into a single forum it would be ~2x the size of the 928 forum. Normalized by production numbers though, the 928 forum would be massively huge compared to the lumped-911 forum.

you be the judge: https://rennlist.com/forums/

We owe a lot of this to the disproportionately high number of extremists we have on this forum that really offer a lot of knowledge, parts and services to the community.

Just to name a few without meaning to leave others out in a little list that is woefully incomplete:
Hans S
Dave R
Roger T
Greg B
Carl F
Tom A
Sean R
Dave C
etc.
etc.
etc.

Think about all the information and tips just provided by anyone of the specialists mentioned above. I can think of long meaningful posts or documented development projects by all of them!! This knowledge is like a positive feedback loop. Not only am I thankful for the knowledge but also the parts. I have parts fabricated and/or sourced by everyone of the people listed above except Sean R.

Thanks to all you extremists my cars are running great, and this is also why the people finally come here. We want our cars running well!

Personally, I think we shouldn't equate the post counts with useful content on forums. This place is sometimes quite juvenile, for example. Better just count how many times per week there's something worth reading on a forum. By that measure, there's useful stuff here every week, so the noise isn't completely drowning out the signal.

Because there are countless other Porsche 911 forums all over the net, countless.. For the 928 specifically, not so much

Never mentioned it, but I noticed as soon as I joined.
Still glad.

i hope the 928 post count is not "only" due questions for solving problems ….:D

might possibly because there are more of us spending $10k to have a $5K car and need a lot more help????

I have always noticed that there seems to be much more activity in the 928 forum than the others.

I have a cayenne s and that forum seems to me more petty stuff, where this one deals with more in depth issues.

I also think that since the entry cost of the 928 is lower we see more DIY people buying. I always notice a spike just after tax season....

^^^^^^^Certainly part of it^^^^^^^

There's also the fact that there are very few 928 professional mechanics versus 911 mechanics, so 928 "people" are sometimes forced to work on their own cars.

There's got to be 1000's of shops that work on 911's in Southern California. There's a few shops that "try" to work on 928's...but most of the cars end up here, sooner or later. And most of the "big" shops that are 911 oriented, don't even bother to try and fix 928's...they send them here, before they "get in trouble".

I think Greg's point is very important. Folks diving into the 928 quickly find out that there just aren't many who will even touch the car, and way fewer who should. This caused the market to plummet for a while, and earned the car a reputation as hard to work on and expensive to work on. The first is not valid, but the second one is especially if one believes in the first. The service support situation tempts DIY's to take over, with mixed results. We get to meet many of those who are hopefully smart enough to come here before damaging the cars and their wallets. Contrast that with 911 folks, who have a much larger support network good or bad. I can safely say that not all 911 mechanics are great or even good. Being a 911 mechanic can be different, and there are a zillion things that the 911 guys know that I don't about those cars these days. 911 and 928 model-specific knowledge isn't always interchangeable. but basic mechanical techniques and good work habits translate well among all the members of the family.

All that circles back to why there are so many posts and threads here in the 928 Forum. We need them. The large support knowledge base here is what allows us to continue owning and driving the cars, at least for me anyway. In the life of Rennlist and at least one predecessor, no 928 was still under warranty. There's a core fraction of 911 owners who do their own work and need the support the 928 receives, but it seems more and more that the 911 family cars are purchased or leased, with warranty and service contracts that help the new class of "gentlemen owners", folks who don't actually do much to the cars on their own.

I find that the huge repair costs for the 928 model come from the shops that do not understand the cars or don't work on them often enough to know the "tricks".

Last year, I saw a bill for $5,000 to trace down and replace a bad MAF with a rebuilt. (Mostly labor.)
Another time: I had a San Diego shop (well respected Porsche shop) that called with a 928 they could not figure out what was wrong, after having multiple techs work on it for over 40 hours. (It would flood the engine, every time they tried to start it.) Took me 20 seconds to tell them what was probably wrong and another 5 minutes to wait for them to go out and confirm the injectors were "clicking" with the key on. (Bad LH computer.) They called two days later and asked if I had any idea where they could get an LH computer, as Porsche only had new ones, in Germany, for over 2K. I sent them a rebuilt for 1/5 the price of a new one (which is upgraded not to have the problem the original ones had.)
Try to imagine what that bill looked like....

This stuff happens all the time...ruined engines from painting powder coating the intake. Redoing water pump/belt jobs with less than 1000 miles on them. Re-rebuilding transmissions with extremely low miles since they were rebuilt. The list is endless.I swear than way over 50% of what we do is redoing what the owner has already paid for, two, three, and sometimes more times.

I laugh when people say I'm expensive....I know, for a fact, that I'm the cheapest "928 repair guy" in Southern California. We only have to do the job once...and, most of the time, we already know what is wrong with the car, just by hearing the description of what is happening. And we carry almost every single part we ever could need, in inventory...so we don't have to "cobble something up" on Friday afternoon, when the client wants to pick up his car.