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Old 04-10-2019, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ROG100
Yes I am sure we can come up with equivalent pumps made by Bosch - we have to match flow and pressure. We may have to resort to aftermarket pumps.
Have you tried buying a replacement HP fuel pump for your Cayenne Turbo S - I just supplied a rebuild - circa $2000 8>)
My Cayenne (knock on wood) hasn't had any issues with the fuel pumps but did something change recently? Last I heard each fuel pump was about $500 each so $1000 for the pair - and that's Porsche parts.
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Cutting and welding a fuel pump... How do you do that without a risk of blowing yourself up from residual fuel? Argon bath? There's also a decent chance of blowing out the seals or valves inside the pump isn't there? Similar to trying to weld a cap on a sealed cylinder.
Old 04-10-2019, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NelaK
Cutting and welding a fuel pump... How do you do that without a risk of blowing yourself up from residual fuel? Argon bath? There's also a decent chance of blowing out the seals or valves inside the pump isn't there? Similar to trying to weld a cap on a sealed cylinder.
To be clear this is not my work, just crap pulled off wrecked cars then tossed into the trash
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Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
To be clear this is not my work, just crap pulled off wrecked cars then tossed into the trash
Okay. That's a relief. I was worried for a second there. Sorry for assuming the worst.
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Probably little risk of blowing up. Cut it apart with a hack saw. Clean it really good before welding it back together. But, why? I could see it if the only option was a $400 pump from Porsche, but with $100 Wabros available, I don't see it.
Old 04-24-2019, 01:42 AM
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Has anyone ever looked at the Standard PR71 FPR as alternate FPR compared to the Bosch 280 160 215 or Porsche's 928 110 198 01? It looks like a direct replacement for 80-86.

https://www.standardbrand.com/en/eca...ype=p&search=s
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...SAAEgIGgvD_BwE
Old 04-24-2019, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by checkmate1996
Has anyone ever looked at the Standard PR71 FPR as alternate FPR compared to the Bosch 280 160 215 or Porsche's 928 110 198 01? It looks like a direct replacement for 80-86.

https://www.standardbrand.com/en/eca...ype=p&search=s
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...SAAEgIGgvD_BwE
A possible "fit" from a connection standpoint, but what are the specifications for the fuel pressure? I didn't see them on either link, unless I didn't look hard enough.
There are plenty of adjustable FPRs that would hold the required 60psi (or whatever it is for L-Jet) and would work, but they would not be plug and play. You would have to "dial" them in to 60 psi.
This one has similar dimensions with adjustment b/w 25-90 psi....but its also $400.
https://www.summitracing.com/tx/part...02-1/overview/

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Originally Posted by Jason89s4
A possible "fit" from a connection standpoint, but what are the specifications for the fuel pressure? I didn't see them on either link, unless I didn't look hard enough.
There are plenty of adjustable FPRs that would hold the required 60psi (or whatever it is for L-Jet) and would work, but they would not be plug and play. You would have to "dial" them in to 60 psi.
This one has similar dimensions with adjustment b/w 25-90 psi....but its also $400.
https://www.summitracing.com/tx/part...02-1/overview/

Jason
36 PSI or 2.5 bar....
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The PR71 is a good replacement for the 928 110 198 01 and in theory it works. Quality is a bit iffy and made in Mexico.
Price is right when compared to the Bosch original. The big deal is availability. I have not been able to find a sustainable source. Standard say they do not plan to make any more soon. You may find one on a shelf somewhere but that is not sustainable in my World. Everywhere is out of stock. Just because it says they have it on the website does not mean it is available but always worth a try.
I still have plenty of the Bosch units in stock but the price is $295. Once they are gone it will be Porsche only and my price will be $475 OUCH!! The good news is that Porsche has about 200 so availability is not an issue short term.

Already the 88 to 95 Fuel Pressure Regulator 928 110 198 04 is currently not available. I have Porsche dealers calling me nearly everyday for them. I am lucky enough to have found an alternative but my stock is low and when they are gone they are done.
So what do we do???? According to Bosch it is NLA and maybe Porsche has the clout to get Bosch to make it again for them - don't hold your breath!!! The price will be mega $$$. Current list price is $500.
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Originally Posted by ROG100
The PR71 is a good replacement for the 928 110 198 01 and in theory it works. Quality is a bit iffy and made in Mexico.
Price is right when compared to the Bosch original. The big deal is availability. I have not been able to find a sustainable source. Standard say they do not plan to make any more soon. You may find one on a shelf somewhere but that is not sustainable in my World. Everywhere is out of stock. Just because it says they have it on the website does not mean it is available but always worth a try.
I still have plenty of the Bosch units in stock but the price is $295. Once they are gone it will be Porsche only and my price will be $475 OUCH!! The good news is that Porsche has about 200 so availability is not an issue short term.

Already the 88 to 95 Fuel Pressure Regulator 928 110 198 04 is currently not available. I have Porsche dealers calling me nearly everyday for them. I am lucky enough to have found an alternative but my stock is low and when they are gone they are done.
So what do we do???? According to Bosch it is NLA and maybe Porsche has the clout to get Bosch to make it again for them - don't hold your breath!!! The price will be mega $$$. Current list price is $500.
Thanks Roger for weighing in...I found one on rockauto.com for $53...I figured what do I have to lose??

$500 for that part is tough pill to swallow for a such a straightforward part. It will be interesting on how the 928 community responds given those prices...
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Glad you found one as Rock have been out of stock for months and still out of stock this am.
You will be fine with the PR17.
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Originally Posted by ROG100
Glad you found one as Rock have been out of stock for months and still out of stock this am.
Very interesting. I happened to log on last night and they said "one" in stock so I snagged it. So they confirmed they are shipping me 'something' in a box!
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Amazon showed 2 PR71's left at $66.78 - now it will be 1. Thanks all for the heads up!
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So- got an order acknowledgement from Amazon, now I'll see if it actually ships.
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Originally Posted by ROG100
I guarantee anything coming from Porsche Classic will not be cheap.

When I talk about Bosch not supplying the market I mean the "Aftermarket" via the major European Wholesalers.
As an example the 88 to 95 FPR was a less than $100 part direct from Bosch - alas no more. It is now a circa $500 part only via Porsche.
Same goes for Fuel Pumps - those peeps that only want OEM are in for a surprise. 87/88 928 608 104 02 was a $175 Bosch fuel pump. - now in very limited supply and currently $279. Porsche has plenty of them but at Circa $390 list. I have about 10 left at that $279 price.
Porsche has only 40 left in Germany so even there supply is limited. I am sure Bosch will make more for Porsche but watch the price soar.
Next on the list is the 89 to 95 928 608 104 03 - I have about 20 at $193 each. Porsche has 20 in Germany for $361 each List.
Buy while you can you have been warned 8>).
What changed between 02 87-88 pump and 03 89-? I’ve seen places selling same Bosch pump to cover 87-95. Is that error on their part?


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