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Old 04-03-2019, 09:44 AM
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I've loved that widebodied 91 GT since seeing it at SITMs a couple years in a row. Cool to have something so unique and you have it looking superb.
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Originally Posted by 928cs View Post
Could-you, please, explain the difference between the 1990 and 1991 PSD and airbags?
+1 eager to her about PSD and airbag evolution. thanks
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Old 04-03-2019, 01:29 PM
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Hi Dave,

Well, that will be a short answer...
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Yes, this is the list of XC1 GT's
All of them were delivered in Germany.

I will contact you if I see one of them for sale.

Samuel
PS: I don't give up about the two US CS's.
Thanks Samuel!

I am not giving up on the CS's either!

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I've loved that widebodied 91 GT since seeing it at SITMs a couple years in a row. Cool to have something so unique and you have it looking superb.
Pete,

Thanks for the compliment! You should be able to see it again. U-Boat Steve (XX8's former owner) and I just got off the phone and we will trailer the XX8 car to the 928 gathering at PCNA (June 27-29). We agree that now that it is mostly tidied up, it should not be out there getting more road rash, so I'll only bring the one car.

I see that you and your son are planning on attending, so I am looking forward to meeting both of you!

And FWIW, all 928ers should be looking at their schedules and putting the Atlanta June 27-29 as a high priority 928 event! Porsche Cars of North America will be watching the events attendance and gauging interest in 928's.
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Originally Posted by 928 GT R View Post
Pete,

Thanks for the compliment! You should be able to see it again. U-Boat Steve (XX8's former owner) and I just got off the phone and we will trailer the XX8 car to the 928 gathering at PCNA (June 27-29). We agree that now that it is mostly tidied up, it should not be out there getting more road rash, so I'll only bring the one car.

I see that you and your son are planning on attending, so I am looking forward to meeting both of you!

And FWIW, all 928ers should be looking at their schedules and putting the Atlanta June 27-29 as a high priority 928 event! Porsche Cars of North America will be watching the events attendance and gauging interest in 928's.
Just need to get the Spyder back on the road prior, but the plan to do so is in process. It really needs to be ready for SITM a few weeks earlier.

Looking forward to meeting you as well.
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I agree, or make your own. If you do it right, you get even more room for wider rubber.
The rear-flares were pounded-out, and I can fit 335 x 11 x 18's.

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My GTS is my daily driver (since I blew up the V12) and a totally different car to the CS/SE/GT. The SE is fast but nowhere near as quiet and refined as the GTS.
The SE is close to a race car in that it is fast, lots of revs and rough round the edges. Lots of fun. The GTS is so much more refined. Heavy yes but carries it with total aplomb.
SO if you want to drive flat out for a 1000 miles then the GTS is the right tool. Lots of low grunt and smooth power. Long legs is a good term.
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roger you said it the best .....gt luxury ,comfortable and powerful....
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Just need to get the Spyder back on the road prior, but the plan to do so is in process. It really needs to be ready for SITM a few weeks earlier.
Your Spyder car is beautiful, hope to see it as well!

As regards the topic of this thread. Lets face it, the 928 is a great car, not that many were produced and even less have survived. Every single 928 is interesting in its own right!

Specific to Joe's question. I also had an 88 S4 5-speed and it was a great car! But it was not a GTS in terms of looks, build quality or as quiet as my GTS. From the factory it had less power and less of the great 'torque" that a GTS has. Your "enhanced" 88 S4 is in a separate world given the modifications and that shifts the $$$'s someone is willing to pay for it. The biggest dollars go for the absolutely original, rare or final versions of collectable cars. We are not going to change that, and my outlaw GT is a prime example. I have spent good money and a great deal of time modifying it to make it faster and lighter per my taste, but it is worth less than if I had spent the same amount making it totally original.

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I'd like to thank everyone for their honest responses. I'll keep my 928 till I'm no longer able to drive. It's great fun on road trips. The Polecat, has become so valuable that it mostly sits, and it drinks gas like it's still $.30 a gallon. Plus it's so visceral that about 50-60 miles and ya need to stop, get out away from the noise and throbbing.

As far as owning more than one 928, at a time? I don't think that's in my future. There are other cars that I'd like to have.
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Greg,

Such a unicorn does exist: One Wide Body 1991 GT (XX8 option) was built for the US market and displayed at the New York Auto Show by Porsche.

It is in extraordinary condition and I am fortunate enough to be it's present caretaker.

I think that an argument can be made that it is the finest (and rarest) 928 ever imported into the USA.








As a footnote:

16 XX8 Wide Body 1991 GT's were made for the German market.

62 XX8 S4 Automatics were built.

The first 12 GTS's had XX8 on their build sheet, but it was redundant.
That's really special!
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Originally Posted by 928cs View Post
Could-you, please, explain the difference between the 1990 and 1991 PSD and airbags?
The 1990 Airbag system had a main controller that had an integral wiring loom made into it. (928 618 217 00)
The 1991 Airbag system was changed to a main controller (944 618 217 02) which had a separate wiring loom.

The 1990 Airbag system was notoriously weak, with Airbag faults pretty common. I personally repaired a few cars where these 1990 systems have "gone off" and exploded one of the airbags randomly...not a good thing. The 1991 system has proven to be very reliable and mostly trouble free. The 1990 system was not available as a replacement part and superceeded to the 1991 system, of which I have purchased several systems to repair 1990 model cars, over the years. The superceeded pieces had a retail price of ~$6000.00, from Porsche, many years ago.

If I personally owned a 1990 car with the early airbag system still inside, I would change it or disable it.

The 1990 PSD systems had "Gylon" discs, which wore fairly quickly....most of the 1990 PSD limited slips that have not been "updated" have long since quit doing their job (they are worn out.) When the discs wear, the abrasive material ends up in the gear oil and can be very destructive to both pinion bearings and differential bearings. The discs were changed to a "Valeo" disc, made from a different material in 1991 (or late in 1990...I'm not positive.) When the original 1990 discs get replaced, the engaging lever for the PSD unit must also be replaced.

These are not "huge" differences....and both "issues" can be addressed/already have been addressed.

Once these items are addressed, the 1990 and 1991 cars are virtually the same.
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