Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Record setting fire damage

Old 03-28-2019, 07:38 PM
  #16  
Speedtoys
Rennlist Member
 
Speedtoys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Posts: 13,582
Received 1,034 Likes on 623 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by karl ruiter
Wonder how it got hot enough to melt the block. It not like its a mag block or anything. Maybe just the oil going up? Maybe the fuel pump kept running? Maybe it was in a building fire?
Had to be an enclosed [Industrial?] property fire. Not even radiant heat was getting away from whatever did this.
Old 03-28-2019, 07:43 PM
  #17  
worf928
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
worf928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Gone. On the Open Road
Posts: 16,322
Received 1,542 Likes on 1,006 Posts
Default

I showed this to CarChick. She dug this up in ~5 seconds:

https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/...ons/fa-243.pdf

TL;DR: Car fires can reach 1500°F.
Old 03-28-2019, 07:53 PM
  #18  
Speedtoys
Rennlist Member
 
Speedtoys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Posts: 13,582
Received 1,034 Likes on 623 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by worf928
I showed this to CarChick. She dug this up in ~5 seconds:

https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/...ons/fa-243.pdf

TL;DR: Car fires can reach 1500°F.
Agreed..but very localized.

Something _baked_ this car well above the minimum melting point for AL for a long long time. It soaked in a massive amount of energy for quite some time.

The block didnt go soft...it poured away like water...that took more energy that a car itself has within it.

Even a residential fire will sweep by and melt a wheel, but this is way beyond that.
Old 03-28-2019, 08:00 PM
  #19  
Mark Anderson
The Parts Whisperer
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

Thread Starter
 
Mark Anderson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Anaheim Ca
Posts: 7,044
Received 350 Likes on 171 Posts
Default

This car was supposedly in the Paradise fire
Old 03-28-2019, 08:04 PM
  #20  
docmirror
Shameful Thread Killer
Rennlist Member
 
docmirror's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Rep of Texas, N NM, Rockies, SoCal
Posts: 19,826
Received 75 Likes on 60 Posts
Default

Fire. Inferno.

I want the dash, but only if it doesn't have any cracks. OK? Save it for me.
Old 03-28-2019, 10:46 PM
  #21  
worf928
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
worf928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Gone. On the Open Road
Posts: 16,322
Received 1,542 Likes on 1,006 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Something _baked_ this car well above the minimum melting point for AL for a long long time. It soaked in a massive amount of energy for quite some time.

The block didnt go soft...it poured away like water...that took more energy that a car itself has within it.
Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
This car was supposedly in the Paradise fire
So, the real question is: If you melt all the aluminum in a 928 into a puddle how many feet in diameter is the puddle?
Old 03-29-2019, 12:07 AM
  #22  
GregBBRD
Rennlist
Basic Site Sponsor
 
GregBBRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Anaheim
Posts: 15,219
Received 2,451 Likes on 1,459 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
This is by far the worst I've ever seen
That's amazing!
Where are the cams, lifters, valves, and springs?
Old 03-29-2019, 12:35 AM
  #23  
Captain_Slow
Drifting
 
Captain_Slow's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 2,095
Received 26 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

I was thinking Paradise fire (or other CA fire). This burned and was baked in a garage (oven). Looks like it's been moved...no sign of the engine block puddle or cams and other steel bits that would fall to the ground. Unlike a car fire the entire vehicle experienced an even roasting.
Old 03-29-2019, 07:37 AM
  #24  
85euro928
Rennlist Member
 
85euro928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Hampster Bays, LI
Posts: 1,334
Received 87 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

Exhaust manifolds look cast, not stainless.
Old 03-29-2019, 08:30 AM
  #25  
linderpat
Rennlist Member
 
linderpat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,393
Received 2,247 Likes on 1,253 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
This car was supposedly in the Paradise fire
Clearly demonstrates how horrific those CA fires were. Think of the people who went through that and the others like it. Wow, humbling and sad.
Old 03-29-2019, 10:19 AM
  #26  
Petza914
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Petza914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 25,257
Received 6,139 Likes on 3,912 Posts
Default

Lots of good parts there - heat treated connecting rods.

Other parts have had the paint removed and are ready for powdercoating.

It's all in how you write the ad
Old 03-29-2019, 11:51 AM
  #27  
SwayBar
Drifting
 
SwayBar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago Bears
Posts: 3,476
Received 291 Likes on 198 Posts
Default

That is one of the most amazing pictures I've seen!

Just how in the world was that fire so hot and for that long?!
Old 03-29-2019, 11:52 AM
  #28  
vanster
Rennlist Member
 
vanster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oakland CA
Posts: 2,325
Received 177 Likes on 77 Posts
Default

This makes one wonder just how many 928's there are left in the world today?
Old 03-29-2019, 12:05 PM
  #29  
merchauser
Three Wheelin'
 
merchauser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,799
Received 39 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

any more photos to post?
Old 03-29-2019, 12:17 PM
  #30  
icsamerica
Burning Brakes
 
icsamerica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: New York City
Posts: 789
Received 273 Likes on 157 Posts
Default

Amazing, The hi temp plastic on ignition coils survived. How is that possible?

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Record setting fire damage



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:39 PM.