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32v Cam Cover Gaskets, problem with Victor-Reinz

Old 02-16-2019, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Six washers on each cover. Twelve total on each engine. Four on the bottom row, one at the very front middle row, and one at the very rear middle row.
Greg, is this specifically for the 1987+ cam covers that seal with the rubber stopper looking washers? Or, will this apply to the 1985-86 S3 cam covers with the rubber backed metal washers?

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Old 02-16-2019, 04:26 PM
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Had same problem with an s4 engine, cover seals (bought from porsche) were shorter on topside, sparkplug seals did not want to stay in place.. I'd like to have more info about that tsb... Is it in one of the CD set that Roger sold me ?
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I used the VR gaskets. I had an issue with them staying in the groove on one side but I think that was more of an issue with me not not removing the engine hoist bracket on the left side. My second attempt without the bracket allowed me to hold the gasket as I seated it.

Also, per the recommendation of a couple list members I used gasket sealer in the cam cover and let the gasket 'set up' with the sealer for 15min before installing. I used clamps to hold the gasket in the cover while it was setting.
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I can't get the TSB to load. Add spacer washer under the head of each cam cover bolt to increase clamping pressure. It recommends 6 be used on each side along the bottom but I use one under every bolt - no leaks at all.
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I could have sworn I remember a TSB instructing to use the washers on the top and the bottom, vs just on the bottom as originally intended, But this is all I could find



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Here it is:



Old 02-16-2019, 11:25 PM
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MIchael, Thank You! for posting those TSB's. I have made a note to look them up when I reassemble the heads on the Red Witch.
Old 02-17-2019, 11:03 AM
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Responding to those who posted they use zip ties to holed the gasket in place or copper wire until they have it located and the bolts started. Then they snip and remove those temporary ties.

Try dental floss. Either string type or flat type work fine, I prefer the flat type. Was first shown this trick by an old mechanic 45 years ago when installing oil pan gaskets that would not stay put while we put the oil pan up. Tie them in place with dental floss, start all the fasteners, then cut and pull out the dental floss. Works great. I still use that mechanic's hack today.
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Been adding the sealing washers to every bolt for years on the 32V engines, so far no leaks,

NOTE putting the washers on all of the bolts balances the cam cover as far as getting even clamping pressure for the plug seals and the top edges
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I replace at a minimum of two of these a month and never had any issues, one of them this month so far. I usually pull the VR ones out of the packaging, put them on the valve covers and set them on the bench over night before installation. Just always done that. I also put the washers/alum rings under each of the bolts between the dome washers and the bolt and have done so for a decade. Never have any issues.

I did have one car that had leaking plug holes so I assume I got a batch of them that Greg refers to.


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