mikew968

I love the way the 928 looks and would like to have one. I'm looking for some feedback. I have a '93 968 that is in decent condition but it feels aged. The money I really need to invest exceeds the value (needs a paint job and the shocks rebuilt plus I just spent 7k on the engine a year ago). I like the car and it is a M030 car but I just don't drive it much. I raced another 968 so I really appreciate the way the car handles. I currently race a Cayman S and it is incredible. My daily driver is a Cayenne turbo s and it is crazy fast and extremely comfortable. The 928 is just an incredible looking car. I could buy a '09 -'12 Cayman and have speed good looks and new technology and reliability. 996 and 997 are probably in the range as well. I would only consider a S4 or a GT. Thoughts?????



Thanks,

docmirror

Cayman, 996/997 are legitimate pedigreed sports cars. The 928S4 is a touring car with a dash or grunt to it. 928GT is a touring car with a bit more grunt. They are very, very different from the mid or rear engine cars. I've owned a 968 with M030, 996 with M030, and 928GT also 928S4. You should likely decide if you want a true sports car or if a touring car would suffice. They are made for different jobs. Recommend finding someone near you with a 928, and go visit and take a long drive with them. It is nothing like your 968, and not like the 996/7 or Cayman.

Also the differences between an S4 and the GT are rather stark, but only in that extreme part of the driving experience found maybe on a track. A well setup S4 can be very spirited, and if driven well will provide plenty of grins. But the GT takes it another stage up with the harsher suspension and particularly the manual trans, and higher diff ratio of 2.84.

The A pillar location of the 928 will remind you of the 968, but aside from that there is almost no comparison. Thunk of the door closing on the 928 tells you right away it's a far different car than the 968. Seats are just better quality(one of the finer early seats of any car), driving position is better, torque is better, road holding is better, and on, and on. But - you really need to decide on a sports car or a touring car. I don't want you to have expectations of the 928 that won't be met. If you can find a GT, I would suggest that, get it wound up on the tach and 'holy mother of god!' it's a changed car. Good luck.

Fox_

What exactly are you looking for?

A stock 928 is going to be the slowest of the bunch.

77tony

Welcome Mike I'd suggest reaching out here: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...w-website.html Great group of 928'rs in Ohio. Also keep an eye out here :https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-sale-290.html T

Ad0911

Don't expect that you can thrash a 928 round bends like you can with a 968 or cayman. The 928 feels heavier and is not as agile.

SwayBar

I would make sure to drive one before buying, that is for sure.

mikew968

Let of great feedback thanks guys. Keep it coming!!!

merchauser

when I first got my GT, I was pleased with the performance. after replacing a faulty hall (cam) sensor, the car came to life.
I discovered, more enjoyment. then I started to get into other normal maintenance items, like O2, and a MAF. car was even better...
intake leaks, and a refresh, made be think, hmmmm, this car is nice. new spark plugs, air filter, proper oil and coolant:
geez this thing has some juice. at that point, I still thought the car had more ability than it was giving up. examining
the throttle plate, with pedal on the floor I noticed, the plate was only about 3/4 open. a little back and forth adjusting the
cables and WOW! shifting at redline, with WOT, from second to third, I have to hold no to the wheel and pay attention to
what I am doing!

so after a year and a half of this and that, the car is finally at the point where I am truly impressed. this thing is exactly what
I was looking for. a vintage car, with a modern space age design, as current as any car made today, with ice cold air, and
lots of creature comforts.

whatever you decide, how fun and enjoy the journey. I sure have.

bronto

Wasn't the 90/91 GT significantly different than the 89? OP may not know that.

BauerR

Are you looking ro get rid of your 968? Manual transmission? Miles?

Chalkboss

Merchauser, but I heard your car is possessed!!

hacker-pschorr

+1
But find a well sorted one owned by an enthusiast, don't make up your mind based on any random 928 for sale that may not be 100% up to snuff. This is especially true with an automatic. Driving an automatic 928 not shifting 100% perfect as the factory intended can really turn you off 928 ownership, and sadly many out there fall into this category.

Topics like this remind me of a dyno day many years ago. We had seven or eight cars on the dyno that day, one new guy from Chicago with a nice S4. On the dyno it made something like 200rwhp (a good 60-70 less than it should have). The owner was oblivious to how slow his car was compared to a properly running 928.

z driver 88t

It will really come down to what you are looking for. A good friend of mine bought a new (at the time) 2006 Cayman S. To this day it is one of the best overall cars I have ever driven. I have twin daughters so I needed a family car which was why I bought my 928 and 996 since they have back seats. If I could get back into a 2-seater a Cayman S would be top on my list.

For daily driving I split the week between a '99 996 and my '84 928. Even though the 996 is a faster car, they actually feel very similar in power because the V8 makes so much torque and power early in the rev-range. So coming off a stop light they both feel about the same. The 928 may even feel a little quicker up to about 30 or 45 mph. The V8 make a great sound too - much better than the water cooled flat 6.

The 928 feels like a really nice 70s era car (at leat the OBs) even though most were built in the 80s, the design really didn't evolve much in that era. By contrast a newer Cayman or even a 996 will feel every bit as modern as anything else. So you have to enjoy the classic car experience.

You really have to be a DIY guy to own a 928 in this era. They are not bad cars, but if you are the kind of owner that takes a car in to a shop for every little thing its going to nickel and dime you. Many of these cars are creeping up on 40 years old at this point and depending on where you live there just aren't that many places that know how to work on them. So there are always little (or big) projects to undertake. Generally nothing you can't accomplish on a given weekend, but they will require tinkering.

That said, the 928 is really rewarding to own and satisfying to drive. I've taken mine on a few track days and autocrosses and for a GT, they actually get around the track pretty well. They may have seemed heavy back in the 1980s, but in today's era of 4000 lb "sports cars" they are fairly nimble.

Definitely drive one that has been well sorted so you can see its potential. There is no shortage of project cars out there, but don't base your driving experience on that.

merchauser

you are correct, sir. currently possessed with the devil. someone even recommended a priest.

the way she is running now, not even an exorcism can bring her back from where
she came. still can't believe the transformation this car has made. I thought it was
darn fun the day I got it, but now...…. I can never extend enough thanks and appreciated to all
the folks on RL that have helped make it this way

t

928 GT R

I have found that the harder you drive your 928 the smaller it seems to get. A modern 911 Turbo S weighs in slightly heavier than a 928 so a lot of the "928's are heavy" is pure sheeple talk.

My 90 GT outlaw is simply a blast to drive hard everywhere from the open roads of the west to the twisty woodland roads of the northeast and a riot on dramatic, hard charging mountain roads.

The core message I have for you is that a well maintained 928 will shock you with its competence when driven hard...