HOT ‘87 tranny goes to surgery
I’m traveling in Europe now, but if someone has G28.13 five speed S4 transmission with LSD and can ship it to an address in the US, I’m interested in buying one (or two). New preferred over reputably rebuilt over used working. Thank you! |
doesnt greg brown have a couple of new in crate transmissions..??
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Originally Posted by andy-gts
(Post 15207093)
doesnt greg brown have a couple of new in crate transmissions..??
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The ones I had/have are '85/'86 models. The big difference is that the 928/13 had steel moly lined syncros for increased longevity in 1st -3rd gears, instead of brass moly lined syncros.
Of course, these days, I would be using carbon fiber lined steel syncros, instead of moly lined steel syncros. Insane durability from the carbon fiber, along with increased "bite". I know of no new '87 and later units, BTW. Truthfully, I'm not sure what I have left...but I think I have two. One with and one without limited slip. (Limited slips are pretty straight forward to rebuild and install.and unlike gears, bearings, and all the other internal pieces, they don't break from age.) |
I can’t find individual part numbers for these:
I can’t find individual part numbers for these, can anyone help? https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...58f4ec8f8.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f4432c09e.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d1250295bb.gif I’m too young to have learned how manual transmissions work back in the day and too old to learn how they work today... |
Originally Posted by ptuomov
(Post 15209097)
I can’t find individual part numbers for these, can anyone help? https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...58f4ec8f8.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f4432c09e.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d1250295bb.gif I’m too young to have learned how manual transmissions work back in the day and too old to learn how they work today... Åke |
Stock engines can break teeth off of individual gears. Higher torque makes this happen more often.
As these transmissions age, the steel gears suffer from wear at the base of the teeth.....easily visible in almost all used transmissions. Add in some hydrogen embrittlement and the problem gets worse. The lower shaft (layshaft) is supported by a needle bearing on each end, so it can (and does) flex under load, increasing the backlash on already worn gears. Unless one buys all new gears for a rebuild (huge $$$ and dependent on Porsche inventory) there is no way to "repair" the internal gear wear. Finding a new transmission for high output engines is a definite advantage....they are just tough/sometimes impossible to find. |
Porshce 928 5 speeds cannot handle the torque of your engine......correct ?
what about just doing the 928motorsports change over to a strongly rebuilt 6 speed gm transmission........c5 or c6 I think I mean all the time and money on the twin turbo set up , just step up to something that can handle the torque. |
Originally Posted by andy-gts
(Post 15212778)
Porshce 928 5 speeds cannot handle the torque of your engine......correct ? what about just doing the 928motorsports change over to a strongly rebuilt 6 speed gm transmission........c5 or c6 I think I mean all the time and money on the twin turbo set up , just step up to something that can handle the torque.
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What about this one, from a 1988?
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...on-roller.html |
To make stock transmission last you basically need to give up one gear pair in the middle and replace it with third bearing support to keep two shafts together. If you're not willing to live with 4sp gearbox better option is to convert to Corvette 6sp now instead of after next explosion. Just about every modern high TQ manual gearbox has three bearing pairs to support two shafts where gears are located. If you happen to be around in Helsinki we have half dozen late 928 manual boxes in garage in varying dismantle level in case you need to understand how they work.
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
(Post 15212980)
To make stock transmission last you basically need to give up one gear pair in the middle and replace it with third bearing support to keep two shafts together. If you're not willing to live with 4sp gearbox better option is to convert to Corvette 6sp now instead of after next explosion. Just about every modern high TQ manual gearbox has three bearing pairs to support two shafts where gears are located. If you happen to be around in Helsinki we have half dozen late 928 manual boxes in garage in varying dismantle level in case you need to understand how they work.
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Originally Posted by ptuomov
(Post 15213007)
Way above my pay grade!
But four speed manual would totally work for me if I spin the engine a little higher. There’s enough “torque flat” there in the engine. Just get 6sp and be done with it. If it has to be 928 get GTS box or at least include oil pump setup to older box. |
Did they take the top off to see which gear failed?
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
(Post 15213071)
Just get 6sp and be done with it.
Best bet would be the C7 Z06 7-speed which is mated to a 650hp FI engine, so at least twice the strength of a 928 box. |
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