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Old 05-10-2018, 09:25 AM
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I put the two window guide seals in yesterday and figured I would offer what I discovered.
Use windex on a cold car with cold seals. When I say cold, I mean not in the sunlight enough to warm the materials or door.
Use windex.
A hot car and materials will dry the windex prematurely and cause the rubber bead to soften which hampers installation in the narrow channel.
I did the first window in the shade and it took me less than 5 minutes.
I did the second window on the side that had been in the sun for two hours and it took me 1-1/2 hours.

Center your guide in the opening and let the triangular clip be governed by the guide cutout. It seems as though there are slight variations in the locations of said cutouts from the factory.
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How is the fitment? When I did this, the part apparently has been updated, and the one I got had a flap running down the whole edge of it. I had to use a razor to remove that flap in order to get the seal to fit into the channel and seat against the outside and inside of the channel properly (the fit still isn't great). My car is a 78, and the original seal did not have that flap. When I did the driver's side many years ago, the replacement seal also did not have the flap. A picture of the flap that I am talking about can be seen in this thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ndow-seal.html.

Here is another thread describing the same issue: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...door-seal.html.

Did your seal have the "flap"?
Old 05-10-2018, 10:40 AM
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Yup, soapy water is the "secret" to installing most rubber bits. Leaned this years ago installing grips on bicycles.

You do NOT want to use anything which could trap moisture.
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I just did these on the 89 Euro, the new seals fit perfectly. I used dow 111 on the outer bead.

Walstar's tip about centering on the triangle guide first is a good one. I had to remove one as it did not line up on my first try.
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The funny part is that I pulled out the guides that had the flap from my car (the same you show) and installed OEM guides without the flap that I took out of the car in Conneticut. I sprayed the salvaged ones with silicone before removing them intact. They fit the same as they ones with the flap. Is the flap intended to index against the door frame and prevent movement when the window rides home in the slot, maybe?
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Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
The funny part is that I pulled out the guides that had the flap from my car (the same you show) and installed OEM guides without the flap that I took out of the car in Conneticut. I sprayed the salvaged ones with silicone before removing them intact. They fit the same as they ones with the flap. Is the flap intended to index against the door frame and prevent movement when the window rides home in the slot, maybe?
Boy I wish you would have snapped a few pictures of the one with the flap coming out. I'd love to know whether it is supposed to go in in a certain way. I have no idea what those flaps are for, and after playing with them for a long time, could not make sense out of them or get the whole piece to fit. Also, the nub on the end at the front side was much wider than the nub on the original one I took out.
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Sorry, I trashed it before posting.



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