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Sean & Roger have made a great reputation for themselves talking behind others back, especially about Carl. It’s all over social media. You slander 928MS products, then are surprised they don’t want to sell you anything. A special kinda breed indeed.
Dude, you are so full of ****. I've never asked for a discount on anything, ever from you. The last thing I tried to order from you were side plates for the plenum when Roger ran out of them. Your response was to laugh because I'd copy those.
Like I have the desire to do that. Look at your records man, the only thing I've ordered from you was your Pikes Peak book. You tried and failed to supply me parts to support one of your SC kits on a 16v car. After years of trying to fit your parts, ranging from 4 different exhaust systems you sold to Ed and to Gerry, these skid plates and a number of other items, I refused to install anything from you going forward due to poor engineering and the attitude you have.
I don't know what your dealings have been behind the scenes with Roger but I can imagine that's horse**** also.
Originally Posted by Carl Fausett
Yes, Roger, after you and Sean called me and threatened that I must sell you my products and provide a discount too - or else - that pretty much sealed the deal. That was your idea of "trying to work with me"? I am happy to not sell to you and Sean for this reason. I do not respond well to attempts at extortion.
Pure BS. The stock part has ONE SIDE that is flat, and our protection plate fits simply on that side. If you spent any time at all "modifying" them it tells me you were attempting to mount them on the wrong side. Just look at this picture - pretty hard to get that wrong, wouldn't you say? But, I know your scheme. All you have to do (and usually do) is cast doubts - they don't even have to be true - and its enough to drive sales away.
As to this Weissak character, it's not behind his back man, it trash talking straight to the man himself.
Carl has his own reputation. I recommend that you talk to Dan87951 about his interactions with him.
Many people have purchased parts that that don’t fit or are defective out of the box and are told that they have to pay a large restocking fee (even when defective), or store credit only. Most that have been successful in getting funds back paid with credit card and then challenged it through there.
I have emails showing Carl flat out lying to customers.
And none one of us that talk about Carl’s products or his support do so behind closed doors.
Personally I hope that he gets rid of his own stupid policy and accepts returns without so much hassle. Then I also wish that he would properly fix his products so that when people get them they actually fit right out of the box. If he did those things he would find people’s attitude would change.
I bought my protection plates from Carl, about 10 years ago. Had them on my 87, and transferred them to the 89 after the 87 was totaled. They work as advertised, and have saved the underside of my car many times, with all the construction debris on the Las Vegas roads. No complaints. I have had to re-weld a bead a couple of times to build them back up. If I recall correctly, Carl sent along the extended bolts to mount them also. Well worth the price!
FWIW, I don't think Greg was making them back when I purchased them from Carl.
Greg, as a side note, you don't really advertise all the different products you make for our cars. I think this past Christmas, was the first time., you posted a partial list. I've bought what I needed mostly from Roger, as he's kept me informed, as to what's available from you. I did take advantage of the Christmas discount and bought the oil baffle, had already bought the fuel lines from Roger. Always the best products, money well spent.
Yes it’s possible about Carl, but I can just go by what i’ve read on social media like FB. If Roger & sean keep it up, something tells me they won’t be in business too much longer. How can anyone stay in business doing what they do? From what I’ve read, they’re both already working from they’re back yards.. If you’re already at that point, why would you push it?? I’d be actively trying to give better service and forget about slandering another’s business; but that’s just me.
Weissach - thank you very much for your post. Yes, I have seen Sean's posts on Facebook and they are errant and baseless. Plus, they are made from a locked forum so I cannot respond to them. Cowardly.
If there is anything the politicians have taught us, its that an accusation does not have to be true to be effective. Like I said, all it has to do is raise a concern and it's had and effect already.
Sean - yes I remember that supercharger install you tanked on. You couldn't get the intercooler installed, and all it can say is you must have been deliberately trying to make sure the kit didn't fit, just to further your agenda.
After you were done, I helped the new owner finish your installation and all the parts went right in. But your BS "parts didn't fit" story will last forever. Yet - how many 16v 928's are out there with our kit on them? Plenty. I guess the parts fit when you want them to.
Colin - you are still grinding that axe from an order you placed on 10/12/2007? For chirssakes, man, let it go. I have been trying to reach out to you to find out why you are still pissed and I wish you'd talk to me about it. Were you not refunded? I think you were.
I'm very sorry Colin that your 2007 order was so botched up. It really was, and it was our fault. But I think we made good on it, did we not? On the plus side - we've gotten better since then.
Colin: the intercooler pic you have posted is meant for a K-Jet motor. Was that pic from a kit being moved from one car to another? That would explain it. A lot of folks think they can just transfer our K-Jet kit to an L-Jet car, and it almost works, but will need some special L-Jet parts (like this one) from us.
Intercoolers for L-Jet motors have a 45-degree down angle on the outlet, like this:
Yes it’s possible about Carl, but I can just go by what i’ve read on social media like FB. If Roger & sean keep it up, something tells me they won’t be in business too much longer. How can anyone stay in business doing what they do? From what I’ve read, they’re both already working from they’re back yards.. If you’re already at that point, why would you push it?? I’d be actively trying to give better service and forget about slandering another’s business; but that’s just me.
My job is to keep these cars on the road and if I can keep people from buying products that do not work as advertised or are parts that are available cheaper, work better, from other places I'll do so. It's not fun telling a customer that the radiator they spent $1100.00 on a few years ago has failed and have to sell them another one when someone won't warranty their product.
Originally Posted by Carl Fausett
Weissach - thank you very much for your post. Yes, I have seen Sean's posts on Facebook and they are errant and baseless. Plus, they are made from a locked forum so I cannot respond to them. Cowardly.
If there is anything the politicians have taught us, its that an accusation does not have to be true to be effective. Like I said, all it has to do is raise a concern and it's had and effect already.
Sean - yes I remember that supercharger install you tanked on. You couldn't get the intercooler installed, and all it can say is you must have been deliberately trying to make sure the kit didn't fit, just to further your agenda.
After you were done, i helped the new owner finish your installation and all the parts went right in. But your BS "parts didn't fit" story will last forever. Yet - how many 16v 928's are out there with our kit on them? Pleanty. I guess the parts fit when you want them to.
Colin - you are still grinding that axe from an order you placed on 10/12/2007? For chirssakes, man, let it go. I have been trying to reach out to you to find out why you are still pissed and I wish you'd talk to me about it. Were you not refunded? I think you were.
I'm very sorry Colin that your 2007 order was so botched up. It really was, and it was our fault. But I think we made good on it, did we not? On the plus side - we've gotten better since then.
Carl, that intercooler that Colin posted is the one that I was supposed to make fit? Laughable. I kept sending you pictures of what I needed and you kept sending me the wrong parts. And that's my fault? I ended up sourcing my own bits to get it to work and sent the car home since the FMU had failed and I wasn't going to deal with you any longer.
I can't send you an invite to my "cowardly" group if you don't request it. I hope you join in maybe you will spend time helping people instead of just trying to sell a product.
Now Now then boy's play nicely 928 Motorsports great web site pity other vendoors do not answer emails .other vendors should get better web site's were all products are made available and able to pay online it's the 21st century and you are in the land great .
My job is to keep these cars on the road and if I can keep people from buying products that do not work as advertised or are parts that are available cheaper, work better, from other places I'll do so. It's not fun telling a customer that the radiator they spent $1100.00 on a few years ago has failed and have to sell them another one when someone won't warranty their product.
Sean, you’re selling yourself short in your job description. I’d add taking a little picture if it and blasting it all over social media.. with of course you’re personal opinions about the persons responsible.
Whatever happened to the mechanic that just fixes things, now we’ve got to deal with characters like this.
Sean, you’re selling yourself short in your job description. I’d add taking a little picture if it and blasting it all over social media.. with of course you’re personal opinions about the persons responsible.
Whatever happened to the mechanic that just fixes things, now we’ve got to deal with characters like this.
I do fix things. I also do not like dealing with substandard parts that do not work, and 928 owners should not be putting on their cars. As you know I deal with it every day, you've seen the posts, you've commented on them quite often. You've told me a couple of times in the group to keep my opinions to myself and I've told you the reasons why I say what I say. And here I am doing it again. If by blasting it all over social media is what you think I'm doing, then so be it. You could always block me and never have to see it again.
When someone is telling a customer of mine that the only water pump that is available is a metal impeller pump that he is being charged $600.00 (that Roger buys for $125.00) when I've got a few laso pumps, with plastic impellers for way less. I'm going to say so. I don't like seeing people get ripped off.
Colin - you are still grinding that axe from an order you placed on 10/12/2007? For chirssakes, man, let it go. I have been trying to reach out to you to find out why you are still pissed and I wish you'd talk to me about it. Were you not refunded? I think you were.
I'm very sorry Colin that your 2007 order was so botched up. It really was, and it was our fault. But I think we made good on it, did we not? On the plus side - we've gotten better since then.
Let me clear this up for you.
I purchased the koni/hypercoil setup from you with the 100/500# springs.
Out of the box the upper spring perches didn't fit and you tried to get me to pay a local machine shop to machine them larger, you begrudgingly sent me replacements that did fit after telling me that you wouldn't reimburse me that cost.
Then I had to remove the front suspension 5 times because at the lowest ride height the car still sat 2.5" above stock ride height in the front end (after settling). You told me I had the correct springs and said that no one else had ever had this issue and you had springs like this on your own track car and it was lowered. You then shipped me shorter springs and when I got them I found they were a 2.25" ID not 2.5" ID. Your solution was to take a grinder or a hacksaw and cut around the 5" adjustment sleeve to "make them fit". You then told me that if anything happened or they were cut too low, I would be on my own. At that time I asked to return the product and you refused and told me the moment it is even attempted to be put on the car that it cannot be returned. I then went and purchased the correct size springs from H&R springs and got the front end where it should be. I offered to return the 2.25" springs to you as well as the 12" 1000# springs you had supplied to me but asked for you to refund me the amount of money I had to spend on the new springs. You refused.
I would have dropped it right then and there and let it go. However less than 2 months later there was an email on a 928 racing group that you didn't realize that I was on and a fellow who used to be on RL by the name of BelgiumBerry queried the group about ride height issues as he had the 800# front springs which is what you claimed to be running. He was having the exact same issues as I was. You immediately responded and said that you run those springs on your car and have no issues at all. I then had contacted a bunch of other 928 members who had your setup with 600# front springs and got them to measure them. They were substantially shorter than the much higher spring rate springs. So not only had I caught you in a lie in the email. I then had caught you lying directly to me and wasting my time and energy.
This is something that I cannot abide.
After I called you out on the blatant lie, and had irrefutable proof of said lie, you then made a drop sleeve to help make those longer springs work. Instead of simply purchasing a set of springs that could actually do the job from a different manufacturer.
Since then I have posted a couple of times about it. And on a couple of the occassions, I have been informed by the moderators that you had reported my post and bitched about it.
You have my email address and my contact details. They have not changed. You have NEVER made even a single attempt to contact me.
However, I have stated many times. If you want me, and others to stop criticizing you all you need to do is get rid of your own stupid policies and accept returns without issues on products that people have gotten and do not fit out of the box. And above all to stop lying.
You have already done so in this thread by the way. The front points that your plate attaches to, neither side is straight. The plates really do require a bend in them. If you do not have this bend you can do damage to the factory attachment points. This has also been gone over on RL. Yet you keep saying that nothing is needed and they are 100% fine. I have a 928 that I am about to lift. I will put a straight edge on the car to show that there is no way that these points are straight.
This car apparently has your plates on it.
You can cleats see that the two bolts that the plates attach to point to the center on the forward lower control arm mount.
This puts an obvious angle on both sides of the attachment point.
You can also see the gap that goes along your unit and if the 2 mounting bolts are cranked down and cause the mounting points to become damaged.
05-07-2018, 12:34 PM
I am happy to not sell to you and Sean for this reason. I do not respond well to attempts at extortion.
