SOLD: inexpensive way to rip your sway bar mounts
02-20-2018, 01:27 PM
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SOLD: inexpensive way to rip your sway bar mounts
Or, reinforce them and enjoy flatter cornering with improved control.
$99.99
Last edited by Socal_Tom; 02-20-2018 at 02:00 PM.
02-20-2018, 05:12 PM
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Is that the weltmeister designed swaybar?
02-20-2018, 08:26 PM
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I have one, and reinforced mounts. AND an addco rear sway bar.....
Be wary of only adding this bar and not upgrade the rear. Thats a _whole lot_ of understeer being dialed in with this. High speed understeer is an effective weight loss plan.
Did the buyer get end links too?
Be wary of only adding this bar and not upgrade the rear. Thats a _whole lot_ of understeer being dialed in with this. High speed understeer is an effective weight loss plan.
Did the buyer get end links too?
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02-21-2018, 12:52 PM
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That's exactly what most 928s don't' need.....more understeer.
02-21-2018, 01:26 PM
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My car came with a Devek bar like this and it was kinda a fun when just motoring around city streets. First time in a high speed corner it scared the crap out of me and it broke both mounts. One has to remind themselves that Porsche builds cars to handle well and if the engineers figured the front needed a bigger bar it would have come with one. Jeff is correct, if you bolt on a bigger front bar you are going to need a bigger rear. Not sure what all this accomplishes as most of us drive at 6/10's max anyway.
I'm sure Kilbort has an opinion on this but he one of the few that drives at 10/10's
I'm sure Kilbort has an opinion on this but he one of the few that drives at 10/10's
02-21-2018, 05:12 PM
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Porsche did not want to see their dentist wife's clientele going backwards through hedges so they built in a fair amount of understeer for safety. Thus with a stock setup it makes no sense to put a stiffer front bar in to make it go from bad to worse as it were steering wise. On the other hand when you start to dick around with thee things one size does not fit all and for reasons I know not, when you stick wider rubber up front the extra grip seems to exceed that generated on the rear even if keeping relative proportions tyre width wise. With a 265 section up front and a 285 on the rears all I can say is that I found that I needed to set the Devek bar about half travel to keep the back end in check [neutral balance]. Set the bar full soft and the tail used to get loose pretty quickly. Set it full hard and the understeer characteristic would start to reappear. Thus why the Devek bar came into being, that and adjustable drop links to eliminate any preload.
When all is said and done it is a pretty nice piece of kit but do not play along at home with it unless you reinforce the mounts. The only quirk I noted is that the Allan bolts that hold the links to the bar are not metric and I needed to order an impact bit of the correct imperial size [3/8th of an inch I seem to remember].
When all is said and done it is a pretty nice piece of kit but do not play along at home with it unless you reinforce the mounts. The only quirk I noted is that the Allan bolts that hold the links to the bar are not metric and I needed to order an impact bit of the correct imperial size [3/8th of an inch I seem to remember].
02-21-2018, 05:22 PM
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Porsche did not want to see their dentist wife's clientele going backwards through hedges so they built in a fair amount of understeer for safety. Thus with a stock setup it makes no sense to put a stiffer front bar in to make it go from bad to worse as it were steering wise. On the other hand when you start to dick around with thee things one size does not fit all and for reasons I know not, when you stick wider rubber up front the extra grip seems to exceed that generated on the rear even if keeping relative proportions tyre width wise. With a 265 section up front and a 285 on the rears all I can say is that I found that I needed to set the Devek bar about half travel to keep the back end in check [neutral balance]. Set the bar full soft and the tail used to get loose pretty quickly. Set it full hard and the understeer characteristic would start to reappear. Thus why the Devek bar came into being, that and adjustable drop links to eliminate any preload.
When all is said and done it is a pretty nice piece of kit but do not play along at home with it unless you reinforce the mounts. The only quirk I noted is that the Allan bolts that hold the links to the bar are not metric and I needed to order an impact bit of the correct imperial size [3/8th of an inch I seem to remember].
When all is said and done it is a pretty nice piece of kit but do not play along at home with it unless you reinforce the mounts. The only quirk I noted is that the Allan bolts that hold the links to the bar are not metric and I needed to order an impact bit of the correct imperial size [3/8th of an inch I seem to remember].
02-21-2018, 07:09 PM
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This bar works very well when matched with the Devek Koni/Hyperco suspension. I've run a lot of DE's with that setup and the handling is pretty much optimal IMO and allows for throttle steering. I did have the mounts reinforced before I installed the bar. I do recall playing around a bit to set the adjustment early on like Fred noted, but since then it's been set it and forget it.