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Oh No - What Did I Break And How Do I Fix It?

Old 02-03-2021, 03:22 PM
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Default Oh No - What Did I Break And How Do I Fix It?

I was fiddling with the large AC line that runs along the firewall out of the fuel cooler, changing the o-ring. After getting a good grip on my wrench to tighten it back up, I must have had my finger under this connector on the fuel rail and snapped. It must be the injector harness connector, right? How can I fix this? The pins are undamaged as is the female side but the plastic tip on the male side snapped off.

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Snapped off bit dug out of connector

Is it save to try to repair this with glue or epoxy? The plastic is so smooth I wonder if anything is going to stick to it. Seems like I will have to try to repair it since the injector harness side is such can of worms to replace.

Any ideas?

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Old 02-03-2021, 03:34 PM
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You have broken the male connector on the rear knock sensor. To replace the sensor is a manifold off job. You can also try grafting on a new male connector- it is not that difficult. Nothing to lose plenty to gain. You need a three pin male junior power timer connector. If the female side is shot [does not look like it] you need a female 3 pin junior power timer connector.

Give Roger a bell and he will get you what you need. However when they snap like that it is not really because you slipped it is because the plastic is well buggered and you simply finished it off. Same thing happened to my CPS connector the other day.
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Old 02-03-2021, 06:25 PM
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order a new,Bosch crank position sensor,
2 knock sensors,
a hall sensor,
new base gaskets
and 4 throttle shaft bearings
and ICV
a TPS
Old 02-03-2021, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FredR
You have broken the male connector on the rear knock sensor. To replace the sensor is a manifold off job. You can also try grafting on a new male connector- it is not that difficult. Nothing to lose plenty to gain. You need a three pin male junior power timer connector. If the female side is shot [does not look like it] you need a female 3 pin junior power timer connector.
Well, that's a relief. I was afraid I really managed to put my foot in it this time.

Stan, Thanks for the list of needed goodies. I'll work on getting those. The CPS has me worried. I don't want to get stuck in CPS hell as have so many. I am so far down the rabbit hole with a WYAIT list a mile long.

The car hasn't been started in a year and it all started with a plan to simply replace the dash lights with LEDs. I've recovered the dash, pod and console since the dash was already off to chase down a wiring short, refurbed the AC box, diaphragms and foam, again since the dash was out, redid the entire AC front an rear and am about to replace the compressor. MAF and LH rebuilt cause they were so easy to get to with the car in pieces. Of course new carpet had to go in since the console was out and now I will have to recover the seats since the new carpet makes them look so bad.

Where does it end!!
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Originally Posted by jschiller


Where does it end!!
That is the question asked by the chaps who paint the Forth Railway Bridge in Scotland! It takes the team about 10 years to paint the thing and then when they finish they start all over again.

If there was a new unit there you would probably have broken a finger. I replaced my knock sensors a couple of years ago whilst installing my modified breather project. My CPS was "new" 15 years ago- I figured it would last 20 years- got that one wrong. Not sure what life my Hall sensor has left in it - at the moment I am going to try to get it out of the car so that if and when it conks I know I can get it. I rate these items for 20 years of service life- maybe that assessment needs downgrading to 15 years?


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[QUOTE=FredR;17209562]That is the question asked by the chaps who paint the Forth Railway Bridge in Scotland! It takes the team about 10 years to paint the thing and then when they finish they start all over again.

All changed now Fred, they're using a new Triple layer glass flake epoxy paint, as used on rigs which should last 25 to 40 years.
Although the original metaphor will outlast that (ha

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[QUOTE=9two8;17210374]
Originally Posted by FredR
That is the question asked by the chaps who paint the Forth Railway Bridge in Scotland! It takes the team about 10 years to paint the thing and then when they finish they start all over again.

All changed now Fred, they're using a new Triple layer glass flake epoxy paint, as used on rigs which should last 25 to 40 years.
Although the original metaphor will outlast that (ha

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Ken,

My guess is that it now takes 25 years to paint the bridge and then they start again!
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I wonder if there was just something bad about mid-1980's everything. The clearcoat/paint combinations were terrible, and the plastics seem to just crumble into dust. Same thing happens with the brake wiring interconnections: Touch some of those and they disintegrate.

Cut and replace the connector is the best option. Truth be told the other ones are probably just as fragile and will crack apart if you touch them as well.
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NOPE best option is to replace the failed components,
as the wire insulation also degrades over time,
just like a GREEN wire does


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