Notices
928 Forum
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Help - I built a 4x4

 
Old 10-05-2017, 07:59 PM
  #1  
Socal_Tom
User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal baby, SoCal
Posts: 703
Default Help - I built a 4x4

So I completed the '88 S4 front suspension swap to the '84. Yikes, check out the ride height.

Yep, I know it needs to be driven and bounce around some before settling.

Yep, I know that having the radiator, alternator, A/C compressor and A/C radiator out will have it sit higher but not THAT high.

Any ideas for me - kind of hard to put it together wrong....not that I couldn't find a way mind you.



Thanks!
Socal_Tom is offline  
Old 10-05-2017, 08:31 PM
  #2  
Speedtoys
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Speedtoys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Posts: 9,885
Default

Originally Posted by Socal_Tom View Post
So I completed the '88 S4 front suspension swap to the '84. Yikes, check out the ride height.

Yep, I know it needs to be driven and bounce around some before settling.

Yep, I know that having the radiator, alternator, A/C compressor and A/C radiator out will have it sit higher but not THAT high.

Any ideas for me - kind of hard to put it together wrong....not that I couldn't find a way mind you.



Thanks!
Do what youve been told. Drive it.
Speedtoys is offline  
Old 10-05-2017, 09:01 PM
  #3  
GT6ixer
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
GT6ixer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Seattle. WA
Posts: 2,905
Default

Yep. That's a normal height after lifting. She'll settle down.
GT6ixer is offline  
Old 10-05-2017, 09:14 PM
  #4  
Socal_Tom
User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal baby, SoCal
Posts: 703
Default

Originally Posted by Speedtoys View Post
Do what youve been told. Drive it.
I wish, need an engine that runs first!

Thanks for the response.
Socal_Tom is offline  
Old 10-05-2017, 09:16 PM
  #5  
Socal_Tom
User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal baby, SoCal
Posts: 703
Default

Originally Posted by GT6ixer View Post
Yep. That's a normal height after lifting. She'll settle down.
Phew, thanks Nate!
Socal_Tom is offline  
Old 10-05-2017, 10:50 PM
  #6  
GregBBRD

Rennlist
Basic Site Sponsor

 
GregBBRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Anaheim
Posts: 9,679
Default

Originally Posted by Socal_Tom View Post
So I completed the '88 S4 front suspension swap to the '84. Yikes, check out the ride height.

Yep, I know it needs to be driven and bounce around some before settling.

Yep, I know that having the radiator, alternator, A/C compressor and A/C radiator out will have it sit higher but not THAT high.

Any ideas for me - kind of hard to put it together wrong....not that I couldn't find a way mind you.



Thanks!
You are aware that there are several pieces in the front suspension that can't be tightened (actually they get barely "snugged") until the car is pulled down to the proper ride height, right?
__________________
greg brown




714 879 9072
[email protected]

There's always different ways to do a particular job.

The trick, in life, is to know which of those ways are stupid....
GregBBRD is online now  
Old 10-05-2017, 11:10 PM
  #7  
jbrob007
User
 
jbrob007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,326
Default

Originally Posted by GregBBRD View Post
You are aware that there are several pieces in the front suspension that can't be tightened (actually they get barely "snugged") until the car is pulled down to the proper ride height, right?
Greg, You mind expanding upon that thought...? I've heard there's a few bolts that we're not supposed to torque until the car is on the ground and settled. Can't for the life of me figure out which ones and I'm sure my front end is not where it needs to be... Any assistance you may provide us novices would be GREATLY appreciated!

BTW, crack that whip on the young whipper-snapper you got working for you and let Jake know I said "Hello Youngin'... hope you're doing well"

Thanks,

Joel
jbrob007 is offline  
Old 10-05-2017, 11:37 PM
  #8  
Socal_Tom
User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal baby, SoCal
Posts: 703
Default

Originally Posted by GregBBRD View Post
You are aware that there are several pieces in the front suspension that can't be tightened (actually they get barely "snugged") until the car is pulled down to the proper ride height, right?
Hi Greg!

Hope you are sitting down, but yes, I am and they are still not fully torqued down in that picture.

Just for grins I put the '84s Koni/spring on the driver side and it is about 1/2 lower on that side.

Would the S4 springs be stiffer to help handle the extra weight and thus have the car be extra high (pending that swap)?

Thanks!
Socal_Tom is offline  
Old 10-05-2017, 11:43 PM
  #9  
Socal_Tom
User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal baby, SoCal
Posts: 703
Default

Originally Posted by jbrob007 View Post
Greg, You mind expanding upon that thought...? I've heard there's a few bolts that we're not supposed to torque until the car is on the ground and settled. Can't for the life of me figure out which ones and I'm sure my front end is not where it needs to be... Any assistance you may provide us novices would be GREATLY appreciated.

Joel
Hi Joel, get other input before relying on me but the UCA and LCA are the two I believe are in question here.
Socal_Tom is offline  
Old 10-06-2017, 10:23 AM
  #10  
Imo000
Captain Obvious
Super User
 
Imo000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,074
Default

Anything with a rubber bushing should not be tightened until the car is pulled down or pushed up to near ride height.
Imo000 is offline  
Old 10-06-2017, 11:05 AM
  #11  
Socal_Tom
User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal baby, SoCal
Posts: 703
Default

Originally Posted by Imo000 View Post
Anything with a rubber bushing should not be tightened until the car is pulled down or pushed up to near ride height.
Thanks
Socal_Tom is offline  
Old 10-06-2017, 12:54 PM
  #12  
Catorce
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Catorce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Orange County
Posts: 1,429
Default

Think of it this way - when the car is lifted up with the suspension off the ground, it naturally settles to a really strange angle. The front wheels alone have a ton of POSITIVE camber when lifted and hanging free in the air.

When you set the car down, that same posture is more or less retained and the springs compress very little until the car is driven a ways.

Oh, so when are you running the Dakar?:-)
__________________
Current cars:
70 914-6 - 2.7L screamer
73 911T Carrera RS Clone, 3.6 power
75 911 Targa - RSR width 930 motor
78 928 - DEVORE CAR, 6.54L
83 911 Euro SC - 3.2 Short Stroke!
88 928S4 5 speed
02 911 Targa
04 911 40th Anniv
07 997 Twin Turbo 6MT - Techart beauty
09 997 Twin Turbo 6MT - Factory Aerokit
11 Camaro SS - 6MT Z28 Spec, V7Ysi 850whp
12 McLaren 12C
17 McLaren 570S
The only reproduction 3.6 flat six engine cases on the planet
www.taorminaracingdesigns.com


Catorce is offline  
Old 10-06-2017, 01:04 PM
  #13  
GregBBRD

Rennlist
Basic Site Sponsor

 
GregBBRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Anaheim
Posts: 9,679
Default

This is a very common conversion, for me, with the exception that I never do all this work and install the old worn out shocks. Therefore, I'm not 100% sure about what you are going to end up with.

With the adjustment purchases cranked all the way down (with new Bilsteins), the cars end up looking like a "Paris to Dakar" 928, in the front.

I end up doing some machining to get the ride height down and get back some height adjustability from the perches.

Have you already lowered your perches with the adjustment collar? That would be where I would start.
GregBBRD is online now  
Old 10-06-2017, 02:20 PM
  #14  
Socal_Tom
User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal baby, SoCal
Posts: 703
Default

Originally Posted by Catorce View Post
Oh, so when are you running the Dakar?:-)
Now that is just mean

:-)
Socal_Tom is offline  
Old 10-06-2017, 02:23 PM
  #15  
Socal_Tom
User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal baby, SoCal
Posts: 703
Default

Originally Posted by GregBBRD View Post
This is a very common conversion, for me, with the exception that I never do all this work and install the old worn out shocks. Therefore, I'm not 100% sure about what you are going to end up with.

With the adjustment purchases cranked all the way down (with new Bilsteins), the cars end up looking like a "Paris to Dakar" 928, in the front.

I end up doing some machining to get the ride height down and get back some height adjustability from the perches.

Have you already lowered your perches with the adjustment collar? That would be where I would start.
Hi Greg, I've got other fish to fry now to get these things out of my drive way, I know I've created more work in all likelihood if these shocks don't turn out to be ok. The shell they came from only has 76k on it.

I have not tried to adjust the perches yet, but will need to. Will start there after I press on with the engine removal x2. Seems like a good idea to get the final weight on the suspension and bounce it around some before I freak out (anymore) on the ride height.

Thank you for all of the support and coaching!
Socal_Tom is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Help - I built a 4x4


Contact Us - About Us - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: