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Old 12-08-2003, 11:53 AM
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Default The Nigerian Counterfeit Check scam artists are hitting this site in full force

The Nigerian Counterfeit Check scam artists are hitting this site in full force. Here is another example of emails that they send to sellers

First e-mail

Hi,

Just wanted to find out if you still have your 911 Turbo 930coupe for sale, I have a client who could buy it for $28,000. We will arrange for pick up as soon as the transaction is concluded and payment is confirmed. Please get back to me immediately with the price.

Thanks

Terry.......

Second e-mail

Ken,

How are you today. I spoke with my client over the weekend and he said I should settle for the price of 28,500 if you do not agree for 28,000. I was to relate the information before your mail came.

He has instructed me to inform you that payment will get to you in a cashier check of $34,200. Which is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client.

You are required to deduct cost of the car $28,500 when payment gets to you and refund balance $5,700 to my customer via western union money transfer for him to be able to upset shipping charges.

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to him, our agent will come pick up title and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer, while title papers and other necessary documets will be handed over to the shipper as they come for pick up.

Confirm this and provide NAME, ADDRESS, and PHONE number for check payment
to be delivered to you ASAP

Thanks,

Terry....

Third e-mail

Ken,

How are you today. just saw your info and I will go ahead and send it to my client. As soon as the check is sent and I get the confirmation from him that it is sent, I'll let you know.

We would prefer to get the deal over with before next week end so the pick up will be made immediately.

Thank you and have a great day.

Terry........

Fourth e-mail

Ken,


How are you, I just got the confirmation that the check have been sent and will probably get to you by Monday. But whichever, as soon as you receive it, please get me informed for further instruction as regards the transaction.

Thank you and have a great day.

Terry.........

The cashier’s check was received today from Nigeria written against

Corporate America Family Credit Union
Elgin Ill.
From Mike Campbell

I called and sure enough the check is bogus. The U.S. Secret service in investigating but has no authority in Nigeria.

SELLER BE WARE.

Ken
Old 12-08-2003, 11:59 AM
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Well, I don't know if the scammers are hitting this site in particular, but rather you specifically.

If you did not have a car for sale, there'd be no reason for them to contact you.

Glad you were not taken in by this one.

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Old 12-08-2003, 01:06 PM
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Thanks Ken. I recently smelled one on a boat engine I wanted to buy.
P.S. What is a 1990 S2?
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It is a 16 valved 944 with a turbo body. it is a great car.

Ken
Old 12-08-2003, 03:18 PM
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I sold a 951 last year and had the SAME EXACT type of emails. I didn't take them seriously. There's something about broken english in combination with people not seeing a car before they buy it that make me really go hmmmmmm. What really through me off was "my client". Gosh, you're buying a 20 year old Porsche not 20% of a Fortune 500 company
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Saw this same story on Dateline NBC the other night. A woman deposited the $34,000 check and wired off the refund amount. 1 week later the bank informed her the cashiers check was bogus, pulled the $34,000 back out of her account. Bank manager failed to investigate original check when she deposited it, even though all the managers were told to look out for this scam. She lost her money with no recourse.

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OK people,

I certainly feel bad when this happens to people, but C'mon. If somebody sends me a check and asks for me to send a refund I'm waiting for the check to clear.
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I did wait. I got the check this morning and called the bank it was written on. So nothing lost here. I was interested because this deal just didn't pass the smell test.

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Old 12-08-2003, 11:26 PM
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Just to ad my 2 cents ( I would like change) I am in the Int'l. Freight forwarding game and we get all kinds of shady things and Nigeria is the biggest of all. We had a crap load of freight in our warehouse that was purchased with stolen credit cards and etc.

I feel sorry for no one that does not do their homework. Ken, Kudos to you for calling on it. You have to love the "client" thing. I love the emails where they want you to open an account so they can send you 30 million and then resend them back 27 mil and you keep 3. I am sure one or two of you have seen this one. I get em 4 or times a year. They are classic.
Old 12-08-2003, 11:35 PM
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I sold a car and excepted a certified bank check for payment. Buyer decided to return car and was able to cancel check !! I did get the car back, but make sure even certified checks clear before releasing anything. Check was in my account for 5-days then it bounced !
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My wife and I got the same e-mail for my Buick, only he claimed
to be from The Netherlands. We knew something was shady being
that the cost to transport the car would be more than the car's
worth. I hear The Netherlands spin is a popular one also, but needless
to say we didn't fall for it.
Old 12-09-2003, 02:34 AM
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I had a motorcycle listed on e-bay last fall, and I've gotten 4 or 5 of these "deal for a client" notes. It's getting boring!!

I'd rather work on the $23M deal for a while!!
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I consider myself not to have come into town on a turnip truck too, but had to really dig on the latest one- two separate (? at least cosmetically) sellers who proposed escrow services for the transactions- fine. One site looked very sharp, the other was an almost perfect mirror of the UPS Exchange page.
Both bogus, and are probably raking in money from people who think they are taking the safe route.
These scams are not always obvious.
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Thumbs down Paypal

When PayPal asked for access to my bank, it was obvious they were not my *pal*, I haven't used them since.

FWIW: the FBI has a site to report internet fraud. I wouldn't hold my breath, but we should report these as they can be traced and maybe some agent will get motivated b/c his granny got taken. They need all headers from the email.
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I have forwarded about 4 of these Nigerian scam emails I've received to the FBI internet fraud dept. then I forward the confirmation from the FBI to the fraudulent sender.


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