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Old 06-08-2022, 06:23 PM
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Default Front AC colder with the rear AC on

I had an 89 S4 here recently for some major work after it suffered TBF.

One of the things we addressed was replacing the AC compressor and lines with Griffith's sourced parts.

Had the system flushed and evacuated and handed off to my AC guru.

I tested it before the hand off and seemed ok to me.

Got a call from my client that AC was not blowing cold enough. But, when he turned on the rear AC the front AC got colder.

I can not explain that. Can anybody?

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Is it repeatable or was it a one time thing? e.g. it is now good & cold all the time?

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Repeatable. Strange.
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Sounds like a vacuum leak somewhere possibly.
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Whats might be happening is that the front evaporator is icing up,
this reduces the cooling capability thus the rear unit will be colder .
as a test after this occurs park the car with the engine off for about 10 mins then turn on the system.
the front should be much colder also note how much water drains onto the floor.
A humid area with have this event happen faster
Solution is to replace the freeze switch.
NOTE also check the drier window to see how much bubbles you see,
if close to none then you have close to fully charged system.
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
What might be happening is that the front evaporator is icing up,
this reduces the cooling capability thus the rear unit will be colder .
as a test after this occurs park the car with the engine off for about 10 mins then turn on the system.
the front should be much colder also note how much water drains onto the floor.
A humid area with have this event happen faster
Solution is to replace the freeze switch.
NOTE also check the drier window to see how much bubbles you see,
if close to none then you have close to fully charged system.
Thanks. I'll have Rick try that.

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Old 06-12-2022, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
Whats might be happening is that the front evaporator is icing up,
this reduces the cooling capability thus the rear unit will be colder .
as a test after this occurs park the car with the engine off for about 10 mins then turn on the system.
the front should be much colder also note how much water drains onto the floor.
A humid area with have this event happen faster
Solution is to replace the freeze switch.
NOTE also check the drier window to see how much bubbles you see,
if close to none then you have close to fully charged system.
That is exactly what happened to mine on the way to SITM last year. I pulled in for gas along the way and a few minutes after stopping I thought I had a radiator hose let go as water started dumping out the right side of the engine bay. ended up being that the ending heat finally got the ice build up to it's melting point while the car was sitting with the AC not operating. Initially I started manually cycling the system of and on as I felt the cooling drop off, but then I turned on the rear AC and realized that adding the load of the rear AC any time I had the system on was enough to decrease the cooling of the front and keep it from icing over. Moral of the story is I probably need to re-seat my freeze switch in the front evaporator.
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^^ They also wear out. There is a brass diaphragm inside that can crack and leak out the capillary fluid.

With how old they are fitting a new one might be a more reliable thing to do.
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Last freeze switch i bought was about 25.00
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They can get overloaded if there is too much current draw and burn out too.

You may need to adjust it after installation so that it shuts things off correctly...my new one needed adjustment (there is a screw on the opposite side of where the wires connect, or a screw right where they are...depending on which kind you get); it wasn't shutting off and the evap. was freezing up.....make sure when installing you don't put a kink in the capillary tube...there's more than is needed so mine I looped.

There is a "cap" that fits over the end of the probe that goes into the hole where the evaporator is....keeps the probe from being installed too deeply...make sure to move that over to your new probe.
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Originally Posted by Kevin in Atlanta
Got a call from my client that AC was not blowing cold enough. But, when he turned on the rear AC the front AC got colder.
I can not explain that. Can anybody?
If you measure the front evap ac vent air temp compared to the rear evap vent, typically the front rises a few degrees when you turn on the rear because
dual evap cars share the same single condenser. When you say colder do you mean overall cockpit or the front vents? Most common Shark issue
is air mixture up front; could be fresh air flap stuck open due to failed vacuum actuator or the blend flap.



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