Noahs944

YES, that is a heck of a deal!

Davito

Michael,
I have my S2 at Koby motors, spun #2 bearing. They offered me turbo connecting rods, they have tons of them and will probably sell you a pair. I also have a set of nuts for the S2 from Vertex I'm not going to use and you can have them if they fit 951's. I bought a set of raceware bolts and nuts.

Cheers,
David

Jfrahm

Which part number rods are you looking for? 100.0 or 101.3 ? Probably 110.0 in an 86 I suppose, I might have 6 of those.

odonnell

Thanks for the offers guys, I'll chew on them.

This morning I received the following reply from Race Engineering:

"Michael,

The Rods are supplied with an ARP 2000 Cap Screw installed.

The Rods are designed for use of a OE Bearing

the Rod is a Forging but all surfaces of the rod are machined. This would qualify them
to be termed a billet

Hope this helps answer your questions"

V2Rocket

Michael - I contacted Tom Molnar about these rods carried by Race Eng.
They have his full endorsement and he says they are one of his best dealers.
You may notice that the RaceEng rods are $200+ less than other vendors for the same rods.
The reason is the $600 rods are "PCA legal" by which they are the same weight as stock 951 rods to make them a racing-legal substitute part.

The $400 rods are about 140 grams lighter than the PCA rods but are otherwise dimensionally identical - less material, less "certification" means less cost.

They are the real deal...

odonnell

Wow, I would have to be moron then to pay more for heavier rods

I emailed back asking for their recommended torque specs, just to have on hand. It looks like it's happening!

I know they're lighter, now I'm just curious what power they can take before crapping out.

I'm debating also getting new pistons since I'm about to have the bottom end apart again, but I don't see the point if mine are in good condition. Just a little wary of the coating being worn off on the skirts potentially. If there are <$500 piston options out there, I'm ears.

V2Rocket

$640 for Wossners from Racer's Edge...

Maybe Molnar makes pistons too

odonnell

I'll pass. At this point I'm just butthurt that I have to mess with the stupid wrist pin retaining clips again. Somehow, the worst part of the entire project so far. Pulling the engine literally took less time than doing all 8 of them.

V2Rocket

last year (?) i had a set of 944 JE pistons on Carillo rods that used the same type of circlip.
i just used one of the picks in this kit from HF...you sort of nudge the clip towards the "corner hole" and pry at it until it pops up and just work it out.

don't think it took more than 1-2 minutes per piston?


http://www.harborfreight.com/4-piece...set-66836.html

odonnell

I have that HF set. They suck! Bent them all within minutes when prying out seals. For the clips, pulling them out takes no time at all. It's the installation that makes me want to throw the engine in the dumpster.

Voith

It's not that hard once you get a feel, I install them with fingers, small flat screwdriver and old piston pin. Had no problems with them but they are kind of pita the first time.

Noahs944

Shop trick for removing spring clips so you don't loose them (or lose an eye) is to cover the clip with a rag when you have it partially out.

Noahs944

perhaps removal of the clip is a bit easier if you tap the pin away to lessen the friction?

951Dreams

Since I'm scrapping the 88 pistons for my 87 build, I've got 4 88 NA rods... but you want forged huh?

odonnell

Yeah. I ended buying those Molnars, that's too good a deal for me to ignore.

Now I want to replace 2 of the pistons...so if anyone has a couple orphaned 951 group 1 pistons holla atcha boy.