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Old 12-23-2017, 01:24 AM
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Has a VW or Audi engine ever successfully pulled a Porsche 944 down the road (not counting the (very) good old Porsche/Audi 924's that ran the 2.0 Audi 80/VW van/golf variant engines) ....evaar ??

Seems like wr've had a good half dozen of these threads.... w/ assorted levels of brilliance ...but i can't seem to recall if any actually ended up running the autobahn or wherever.....

i realize that these innocent but tough questions can so easily be taken the wrong way on a forum with so many challenged (re; not running) examples. Please pardon if there's any impression given of derisive intent. Sometimes it's hard (remembering).....
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:19 AM
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there's a number of running (for years) examples on the 924board.org.
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Old 12-23-2017, 08:09 PM
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Search Motor Works (Werks?) Racing... they have some very polished looking race cars.
I was actually working on mine before I saw theirs, but those pix been massively helpful!
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Old 12-25-2017, 04:43 AM
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Yeah, those were my motivation pictures too. Actually when I saw those pictures I decided that is what I'm going to do if I get bigger problems with my S2 engine. I didn't have to wait for too long

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Old 12-25-2017, 01:04 PM
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Here is my VW swap

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Old 12-26-2017, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by morghen View Post
Here is my VW swap

Funny comment. Diesel swapped cayenne... I have a 944 and a4 2003 watching intently but looking for turn key solutions otherwise go with V8..
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:21 AM
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Any updates on these? Looking to do a swap of my own and just wanted to make sure it's not a total waste of time
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:15 PM
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Still working on it, still making progress.
Was planning to wait until I made it run before I posted anything more, but it's in the home stretch now.
Re did the adapter to stand the motor up. Got lucky and found a scrap 3/4" piece of plate for $30! Not so lucky on the machining. The last shop I used was 'not interested', others were too busy. The one guy I found couldn't figure out the autocad file! Finally made it myself on a friend's Bridgeport.
Manifold still contacts the hood, but a small bulge will accommodate that. Alternatively, I could space the crossmember down like they do with the LS swaps.
Able to use an off-the-shelf SPA exh manifold, but the turbo only clears with the exhaust pointed fwd. If they made a reverse rotation GT2871 turbo, it would be perfect. Just a minor challenge.
Working on the oil plumbing now, using the factory oil pump for scavenge with a single stage dry sump pump for pressure. Need to notch the front of the pan for crossmember clearance.
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The amount of fab work required is just stupid... it's no wonder that most of these threads eventually go cold.
Still need to plumb the oil and cooling systems, modify the oil pan, address engine management (AEM?), finalize the exhaust...
Then assemble the real engine and install it.
I'm particularly stubborn, and my motto is "the CAR never wins." It will run, and I hope to have it out on the track before the end of the year.
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Old 08-10-2018, 10:54 AM
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Have you looked into some of the low-profile sump's and oil pans? those could be a potential option, although the oil req's could be a hinderance, idk these engines super well but it may be an option. Great build though, I'd be interested in purchasing those plans for the mounts and torqu tube, or potentialy some pre-made adapters when I swap out my NA for one of these 1.8's. Local euro shop quoted me 2500 for a timing belt job on my stock engine so at this point im looking to do a swap instead, purley for street driving though nothing too crazy. Im still in school too so I have plenty of time for fab work lol
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:26 PM
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Motor Werks Racing might be selling plate/flywheel kits now, making the swap a lot more straightforward.
Ludicrous to build your own... come to think of it, this who;e thing has been pretty retarded!
I have hundreds of hours into it, thousands of $$, and not done yet.
Haven't investigated any low profile pans, easy enough to use a cut-down stamped steel Rabbit oil pan. They're $30 on ebay.
The dry sump is just for insurance on the track. If it was a street car, I could probably baffle the Rabbit pan and be safe.
Still need to address the brake M/C, as the booster interferes with the intake man. A lot of the LS swap guys adapt the BMW hydro boost system, but this has no P/S. CNC Brakes makes the perfect dual M/C mount with a balance bar, but it's $400.
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If you can contemplate doing this swap, changing your own timing belts will be a breeze...
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:49 PM
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Timing belts are the main motivation behind doing the whole swap lol, that and the horsies with the improved power to weight ratio. Saw on another thread a guy is having some bell housings made that are compatible with both the 07K (2.5, 5 Cylinder) and the 1.8t. Looks like a fairly straight forward swap with minimal fabrication, so I'll probably get in on that.

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Old 08-10-2018, 01:05 PM
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"fairly straightforward"
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