MS Blaster Worm. It's a real threat.
08-18-2003, 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by SidViscous
I have yet to hear of the BSA going after anyone, certainly not individuals.
I have yet to hear of the BSA going after anyone, certainly not individuals.
A year ago people said that the RIAA will go after Napster, Kazaa, etc. but not after individuals. They go after the biggest first, then they go after the next biggest, etc.
You'll probably never get sued. But then you'll probably not get hit by a drunk driver on your way home tonight. I still suggest you buckle up.
"It'd be nice if you could follow the conversation. I did not say their licensing agreements are the same, I said the products"
And it would be nice if you could follow. The original part about that thread was about the licensing of things like XP 2k and the like and how it puts all that information in documents and how M$ can track it down. When were we talking about drivers or upgrades.
And it would be nice if you could follow. The original part about that thread was about the licensing of things like XP 2k and the like and how it puts all that information in documents and how M$ can track it down. When were we talking about drivers or upgrades.
Yes your right it was (though the computer is much more pervasive than trains ever were) not my point once again. They were a monopoly and in fact were one of the major reasons (along with the steel industry) that brought about the anti monoply laws. And that the FALL of the train industry was faster and harder than the .coms.
That deal was shady to say the least.
"If you can selectively apply your ethics, then you have none."
Opinions are like A-holes, everyone has one and they all stink. Ethics are one of those things that can be argued form both sides until the Gateway cows come home.
Opinions are like A-holes, everyone has one and they all stink. Ethics are one of those things that can be argued form both sides until the Gateway cows come home.
POint being they have cash. Companies that loose money don't. M$ salaries are only partially in stocks, as most large computer companies do.
And yes, I realize that MS does not pay its employees purely in stocks (I don't see how you could get that from what I wrote). What it does do is pay them a hefty amount in stock.
20% of the market? Please. Other than Apple I've never seen anything but Wintel sold in any computer store or major producer. Al's house of Linuk is not 20% of the market.
It's estimated that 20-25% of the computers on Earth run GNU/Linux or BSD.
How is what your doing NOT passive. It's nothing but ignoring. If you want to cut out so much of your market, good luck with it. Personally I sell to anyone who wants it. I'm pretty sure Bill G doesn't even know who I am, much less loves me.
What I'm doing is nothing but ignoring...and promoting alternatives...and denying funds...and producing alternatives. How exactly is that passive?
If I don't use their products (which I don't) and make the alternatives better (which I do) and convince others to follow suit (which I try), then eventually, given enough successes, MS will lose its dominance. If you continue on your path of using their products (with or without paying for them), but bitching loudly about how you hate MS and billg, you'll make absolutely no impact, just a lot of useless noise. And eventually, you'll have to upgrade to their latest OS, with the DRM and the strict licensing, because otherwise, you won't be able to use the latest software or hardware. And when you do, he'll have you, and you'll be paying $200/yr. to rent windows 2005.
No I don't think billg actually loves you, I'm guessing you're not Melinda Gates, so he probably doesn't care about you. But he loves your type. In the mid to late 90s the largest source of unlicensed MS software was MS. They gave it away covertly, because they'd rather have you using their software for free than using a competitor's product. It was a method of building up market share while destroying the competition. Now that they have the dominant market share, you're stuck, so they can try to force everybody to pay. The only problem with that plan is the Free Software movement. They can't put it out of business, and they can't buy it out: they're screwed.
"Why not start with your own? " If I could do my job easily, and use the same equipment I already have I would. Hopefully the new BeOS will solve that problem. Any Idea how I can get my VPN to work on a non-MS platform?
"Then how are you using MS on your computer?" I also use non M$ product, I test non M$ product, and in fact I used to work for SUN, last I heard a non-M$ house there. And even they had employees using MS, laptops don't you know. Nowadays not using M$ is like not using roads paved with Asphalt, or using pwer that doesn't come from a Bechtel maunfactured power plant.
It's difficult to avoid MS, but it's not impossible.
No your characterization was not accurate, how was it? You may not be 17 but that was meant to be humouros/insulting not a characterization.
Yeah I geuss Billy did give a lot to Bush
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/polit...ics000608.html
"Hedging its bets, Microsoft itself has staked out bipartisan territory in making campaign donations. The company has given $2.2 million in contributions this election cycle, a figure that is divided almost exactly between Democratic and Republican interests. "
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/polit...ics000608.html
"Hedging its bets, Microsoft itself has staked out bipartisan territory in making campaign donations. The company has given $2.2 million in contributions this election cycle, a figure that is divided almost exactly between Democratic and Republican interests. "
08-18-2003, 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by SidViscous
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I've always wanted to develop a nice low slung efficient OS. And even talked to some people to do a project. Never pans out.
Not a programmer myself so I can't do it alone.
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I've always wanted to develop a nice low slung efficient OS. And even talked to some people to do a project. Never pans out.
Not a programmer myself so I can't do it alone.
Engineering is only a part of the effort. I bet you can write documentation, test, evangelize, or manage a project.
If you want to really contribute to bill's downfall (in the OS market, it'd take an act of Congress to make that man poor), then contribute to one of these projects. If you do, I'll take back what I said about bill liking you.
I'll say he hates you as much as he hates me.Due to BSD's licensing, it's perfectly legal to use parts of the BSD system in a proprietary project (win2k and xp both do), so I'd suggest assisting with GNU/Linux, since it is GPL'd.
08-19-2003, 05:32 PM
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BeOS is a good OS (and an amazing one for multimedia types), from what I hear. There have been rumors for years about Be (and now Palm) opening the source code, but at this point I doubt it'll happen.
That basically means it's dead, since they're not releasing or updating BeOS, and they won't let the community do it.
That's one of the downfalls of proprietary software: they can cut you off at anytime, and you can never improve past the last version they released. OS/2 lovers have the same problem.
There are petitions online asking Palm to open the code. And there are projects trying to replace BeOS with open alternatives.
That basically means it's dead, since they're not releasing or updating BeOS, and they won't let the community do it.
That's one of the downfalls of proprietary software: they can cut you off at anytime, and you can never improve past the last version they released. OS/2 lovers have the same problem.
There are petitions online asking Palm to open the code. And there are projects trying to replace BeOS with open alternatives.
