Mobil 1 Extended Life 10W-60
06-26-2014, 10:50 PM
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CFS 5w40 NT
http://www.millersoils.co.uk/automot...tor=Motorsport
CFS 5w40
http://www.millersoils.co.uk/automot...tor=Motorsport
XF LONGLIFE 5w40
http://www.millersoils.co.uk/automot...992§or=Car
EE LONGLIFE 5w40
http://www.millersoils.co.uk/automot...026§or=Car
TRIDENT LONGLIFE 5w40
http://www.millersoils.co.uk/automot...865§or=Car
06-27-2014, 09:16 AM
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2nd page, 4th down - that is NOT a "motorcycle oil" and what a lot of 944/928 owners use:
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf
3rd page, 2nd down - that is the V-Twin 20w-50
Can you use the V-Twin oil in a 944? I've read a lot of posts from air cooled Porsche owners that use it. Around here it's more money than the 15w-50 non-motorcycle oil so it's probably a waste of money on a street driven 944.
Can you find Valvoline VR-1 in your area? IMO that's one of the best "off the shelf" oils for our cars. The regular or the synthetic.
06-27-2014, 11:37 AM
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Millers site responds with this for a 944:
Products : Classic Mini Oil 20w50 (Code 5489)
Energy Efficient Nanodrive : EE 10w40 (Code 7708)
Trident : Trident 5w40 (Code 7625)
Which does not help either as they recommend more than 1, and no mention of HTHS or ZDDP.
Products : Classic Mini Oil 20w50 (Code 5489)
Energy Efficient Nanodrive : EE 10w40 (Code 7708)
Trident : Trident 5w40 (Code 7625)
Which does not help either as they recommend more than 1, and no mention of HTHS or ZDDP.
Anyway you've opened a can of worms. You'll never sleep again knowing that no matter what you pick it will likely destroy the engine on your car and any other cars within a 1 mile radius.
06-27-2014, 11:50 AM
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A friend of mine tried a full synthetic in his vintage Ducati and this is his experience posted on the motorcycle forum:
Beware of synthetic oil, it can do terrible things to you and your beloved vehicle. It will not only leak out of your engine faster than you can put it in, but it will also cause your oil filter to clog and implode, dumping debris and dirt into your lubrication system. It also will make every part of your bike permanently slippery because of its linear molecular chain dispersion action. Then it will leak onto your kickstand causing it to retract automatically, dropping your bike on the ground! But that's not all...
Synthetic oil will round off your gears and spin your bearings. It will also splatter onto your seat causing your girlfriend to fall off in the apex of a turn and she'll never ride with you again. Synthetic oil coats your sight window and your timing window with a whitish pro-emulsification additive that is both non-removable and highly corrosive. Synthetic oil will completely leak onto the ground overnight and your dog will drink it and die.
Synthetic oil will wear out your tires and make your battery leak. It will give you the desperate need to urinate after you put your full leathers on and then jam your zippers shut. It will contaminate your gasoline causing your bike to stall on railroad tracks and accelerate uncontrollably near police cars. It will make it rain during rallies and on weekends. It will lubricate your timing belts causing them to jump teeth and break your valves to bits. Synthetic oil chemically weakens desmodromic valves and causes the clearances to change every six miles. Then it melts the black soles of your riding boots right before you walk across your new carpeting.
While riding past groups of attractive women it will cause both of your handlebar grips to slip off at the same time so you smash your windscreen with the bridge of your nose. It also causes your swingarm to crack, your studs to break, and your rotors to warp, and then it voids your warranty by changing your odometer reading to 55,555. It also dries out your wetclutch and wets your dryclutch. It makes your clutch slave cylinder seal fail in the heaviest traffic on the hottest day of the year while putting an angry wasp in your helmet for good measure.
Synthetic oil hides your 13mm socket and puts superglue on your earplugs. Synthetic oil will scratch your faceshield and make your gloves shrink two sizes night before trackday. Synthetic oil stole your neutral and sold it to the Chinese for $1.25. Synthetic oil will make you grow a tail. Synthetic oil will write long crazy e-mails to your Internet friends and then sign your name at the bottom
06-27-2014, 04:32 PM
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Since you went there, we might as well cover the dangers of synthetic motor oils. it's all a conspiracy.....
A friend of mine tried a full synthetic in his vintage Ducati and this is his experience posted on the motorcycle forum:
Beware of synthetic oil, it can do terrible things to you and your beloved vehicle. It will not only leak out of your engine faster than you can put it in, but it will also cause your oil filter to clog and implode, dumping debris and dirt into your lubrication system. It also will make every part of your bike permanently slippery because of its linear molecular chain dispersion action. Then it will leak onto your kickstand causing it to retract automatically, dropping your bike on the ground! But that's not all...
Synthetic oil will round off your gears and spin your bearings. It will also splatter onto your seat causing your girlfriend to fall off in the apex of a turn and she'll never ride with you again. Synthetic oil coats your sight window and your timing window with a whitish pro-emulsification additive that is both non-removable and highly corrosive. Synthetic oil will completely leak onto the ground overnight and your dog will drink it and die.
Synthetic oil will wear out your tires and make your battery leak. It will give you the desperate need to urinate after you put your full leathers on and then jam your zippers shut. It will contaminate your gasoline causing your bike to stall on railroad tracks and accelerate uncontrollably near police cars. It will make it rain during rallies and on weekends. It will lubricate your timing belts causing them to jump teeth and break your valves to bits. Synthetic oil chemically weakens desmodromic valves and causes the clearances to change every six miles. Then it melts the black soles of your riding boots right before you walk across your new carpeting.
While riding past groups of attractive women it will cause both of your handlebar grips to slip off at the same time so you smash your windscreen with the bridge of your nose. It also causes your swingarm to crack, your studs to break, and your rotors to warp, and then it voids your warranty by changing your odometer reading to 55,555. It also dries out your wetclutch and wets your dryclutch. It makes your clutch slave cylinder seal fail in the heaviest traffic on the hottest day of the year while putting an angry wasp in your helmet for good measure.
Synthetic oil hides your 13mm socket and puts superglue on your earplugs. Synthetic oil will scratch your faceshield and make your gloves shrink two sizes night before trackday. Synthetic oil stole your neutral and sold it to the Chinese for $1.25. Synthetic oil will make you grow a tail. Synthetic oil will write long crazy e-mails to your Internet friends and then sign your name at the bottom
A friend of mine tried a full synthetic in his vintage Ducati and this is his experience posted on the motorcycle forum:
Beware of synthetic oil, it can do terrible things to you and your beloved vehicle. It will not only leak out of your engine faster than you can put it in, but it will also cause your oil filter to clog and implode, dumping debris and dirt into your lubrication system. It also will make every part of your bike permanently slippery because of its linear molecular chain dispersion action. Then it will leak onto your kickstand causing it to retract automatically, dropping your bike on the ground! But that's not all...
Synthetic oil will round off your gears and spin your bearings. It will also splatter onto your seat causing your girlfriend to fall off in the apex of a turn and she'll never ride with you again. Synthetic oil coats your sight window and your timing window with a whitish pro-emulsification additive that is both non-removable and highly corrosive. Synthetic oil will completely leak onto the ground overnight and your dog will drink it and die.
Synthetic oil will wear out your tires and make your battery leak. It will give you the desperate need to urinate after you put your full leathers on and then jam your zippers shut. It will contaminate your gasoline causing your bike to stall on railroad tracks and accelerate uncontrollably near police cars. It will make it rain during rallies and on weekends. It will lubricate your timing belts causing them to jump teeth and break your valves to bits. Synthetic oil chemically weakens desmodromic valves and causes the clearances to change every six miles. Then it melts the black soles of your riding boots right before you walk across your new carpeting.
While riding past groups of attractive women it will cause both of your handlebar grips to slip off at the same time so you smash your windscreen with the bridge of your nose. It also causes your swingarm to crack, your studs to break, and your rotors to warp, and then it voids your warranty by changing your odometer reading to 55,555. It also dries out your wetclutch and wets your dryclutch. It makes your clutch slave cylinder seal fail in the heaviest traffic on the hottest day of the year while putting an angry wasp in your helmet for good measure.
Synthetic oil hides your 13mm socket and puts superglue on your earplugs. Synthetic oil will scratch your faceshield and make your gloves shrink two sizes night before trackday. Synthetic oil stole your neutral and sold it to the Chinese for $1.25. Synthetic oil will make you grow a tail. Synthetic oil will write long crazy e-mails to your Internet friends and then sign your name at the bottom
06-28-2014, 01:27 PM
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What country are you in?
2nd page, 4th down - that is NOT a "motorcycle oil" and what a lot of 944/928 owners use:
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf
3rd page, 2nd down - that is the V-Twin 20w-50
Can you use the V-Twin oil in a 944? I've read a lot of posts from air cooled Porsche owners that use it. Around here it's more money than the 15w-50 non-motorcycle oil so it's probably a waste of money on a street driven 944.
Can you find Valvoline VR-1 in your area? IMO that's one of the best "off the shelf" oils for our cars. The regular or the synthetic.
2nd page, 4th down - that is NOT a "motorcycle oil" and what a lot of 944/928 owners use:
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf
3rd page, 2nd down - that is the V-Twin 20w-50
Can you use the V-Twin oil in a 944? I've read a lot of posts from air cooled Porsche owners that use it. Around here it's more money than the 15w-50 non-motorcycle oil so it's probably a waste of money on a street driven 944.
Can you find Valvoline VR-1 in your area? IMO that's one of the best "off the shelf" oils for our cars. The regular or the synthetic.
If I Google Mobil 1 15W-50 in the UK I get hits saying this:
Mobil 1 15W-50 advanced performance synthetic engine oil (Discontinued)
All his on Mobil 1 20W-50 returns V-Twin motorcycle oil only.
Valvoline VR-1 returns 20W-50 as being mineral.
Valvoline VR-1 synthetic returns 10W-60. Back to 10W-60? I cannot see the huge sin in that. I have found Porsche specialists in the UK endorsing 10W-60 especially from Mobil.
It must be the limited UK market.
Hmmmmmm, again.
06-28-2014, 01:48 PM
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That's what I would use (in fact, I do) unless you are hell bent on running 6k miles or more between oil changes.
The only reason why I have VR-1 synthetic right now is they ran a rebate a few years ago with no limit, so I stocked up (it was almost free).
Once this runs out I'm going back to the mineral version or I'll start using what my engine builder puts in his 1,000hp 928 (that's not a typo).
http://products.lelubricants.com/ite...-oil-8820/8820
It's also a non-synthetic. He doesn't like synthetic oils, but that's for another thread.....
If I looked it up correctly, it has a higher HTHS than the Millers oil.
The only reason why I have VR-1 synthetic right now is they ran a rebate a few years ago with no limit, so I stocked up (it was almost free).
Once this runs out I'm going back to the mineral version or I'll start using what my engine builder puts in his 1,000hp 928 (that's not a typo).
http://products.lelubricants.com/ite...-oil-8820/8820
It's also a non-synthetic. He doesn't like synthetic oils, but that's for another thread.....
If I looked it up correctly, it has a higher HTHS than the Millers oil.
06-29-2014, 09:30 PM
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This stuff has excellent additives in it but our engine bearing clearances/tolerances call for 20w50 in most neutral climates.. This new porsche oil is specifically designed for Air cooled. I've rebuilt hundreds of 944 and turbo engines, from spec racing, to mild , to full dry sump high power race engines... engine tolerances, oil weight and climate temp is one thing, how you are driving the car is the other part of the equation.
06-30-2014, 08:36 AM
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I agree with the valvoline VR1 20w50
my 1987 '944 which is babied and only street driven , its the only oil I have used in 4 years and the car seems to love it. good oil pressure at startup and at idle. plus its changed every year , whether it needs it or not. 1 year was less than 1500 km's on it. its not cheap at $7 alitre with tax but its very easy to find. wallyworld and napa.
the oil is easy to find, the filter (oc-142) thats another story.
my 1987 '944 which is babied and only street driven , its the only oil I have used in 4 years and the car seems to love it. good oil pressure at startup and at idle. plus its changed every year , whether it needs it or not. 1 year was less than 1500 km's on it. its not cheap at $7 alitre with tax but its very easy to find. wallyworld and napa.
the oil is easy to find, the filter (oc-142) thats another story.
07-04-2014, 07:16 PM
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Well I have decided on Valvoline VR1 20w50. My only concern would be when its below freezing outside, but since I don't plan on driving it during the winter and it sits in a heated garage, this shouldn't be an issue.
