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V2Rocket 05-23-2012 09:55 PM

Mini-project: tightening up shift linkage
 
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Hi all,

Just sharing with you a few things I am working on right now to try to tighten up the feel of the 944 shifting mechanism. I "fixed" the stock pin and that was a significant improvement over the worn egg-shaped shifter pin but the rest of the system has play as well.

Last time (2 years ago, maybe more) what I did was grind down the welds on the shift lever and remove the pin. I drilled the pinhole out to 7/16 on the shift lever and also the hole in the shifter rod it goes into. Cut a piece of 7/16 rod to length and welded it on, and tapped the end of the rod for a small screw/washer to hold it all together. There is still some play though at the lever end, I imagine the hole is wearing again.

So I've decided to go through and tighten up everything. Most of this is based off of what I have seen other people do before here on RL, such as user SoCal924 and robstah, so I cannot claim credit for the ideas. However, if you are interested in doing something similar, this could serve as a guide for you.

All parts needed can be found at McMaster-Carr.com, along with many local hardware stores like ACE or Lowe's.

Part I: Shift lever/shifter rod slop
I am going to copy what robstah did recently, but removing the pin from the shift lever and installing a M10x50 bolt/nut in the hole through the shifter rod, with needle roller bearings and appropriate washers in between. What this does is take the wear/movement action off of the shifter rod hole itself and puts it on the side edges of the rod. The bearings should make it very smooth in operation, and there should be basically no play whatsoever once it's all bolted together.

I have not done this yet, but will post pictures when I get around to it maybe this weekend. For now, you can see his thread for explanation/pictures.
(https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...pool-ball.html)

Parts needed:
- M10x50mm bolt- x1
- M10 nylon lock nut matching the bolt above - x1
- M10 thrust bearings - x2 (McMaster 5909K11)
- M10 thrust bearing washers - x4 (McMaster 5909K71)

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Part II: Transmission-end linkage pivot

The stock linkage is a bent piece of stamped steel, with balljoints and plastic inserts and rubber grommets to give it enough wiggle room to pivot around. However, the plastic inserts wear and the rubber gives too much wiggle when it dries out and collapses a bit. So my solution, based off of Socal924's solution years ago, was to replace it with new ball bearing joints.

Parts needed:
- M8x1.25x110 both-end-threaded stud - x1 (M-C 93275A034)
- M8x1.25 regular nuts - x2
- Ball-joint linkage with M8x1.25 threaded ball-stud, right-hand thread (M-C 6058K821) - x2

Put them together like so and adjust until the length is correct (should be around 145mm bolt to bolt).

V2Rocket 05-23-2012 09:56 PM

Part III: Transmission-end plastic bushing
This bushing joins the fore/aft and side/side movement of the transmission linkage with its plastic body and rubber grommets. However after 25 years of shifting the holes inside the bushing have worn out slightly and the rubber is crushed, giving a small amount of wiggle-play.

There is a vendor out there that sells a billet aluminum replacement, but attempts to contact him have been unsuccessful and prices are not listed on his site. It would be not too difficult to make that product but as I don't have reliable access to a machine shop I am going to try to modify it to use some sort of bearing (perhaps the thrust bearings listed above) to take away the play and the wear point. Have not done this yet, will keep posted.

CyCloNe! 05-24-2012 10:44 AM

very nice write up :D

xschop 05-24-2012 11:55 AM

Very Nice. I made an opposing thread lateral arm to adjust side-to-side position. Do those ball joint linkage come left and right threaded?

V2Rocket 05-24-2012 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by xschop (Post 9557362)
Very Nice. I made an opposing thread lateral arm to adjust side-to-side position. Do those ball joint linkage come left and right threaded?

Yes

Van 05-24-2012 12:58 PM

Can you use something with thrust bearing instead of that plastic block on the transmission?

I like the idea of the thrust bearing on the shift lever.

xschop 05-24-2012 01:05 PM

Before you make a new billet block, pay close attention to the factory angle. I believe the binding from the needle bearing short shifters is due to this overlooked detail.

V2Rocket 05-24-2012 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Van (Post 9557541)
Can you use something with thrust bearing instead of that plastic block on the transmission?

I like the idea of the thrust bearing on the shift lever.

I was thinking of modifying the block, either drilling it out to accept needle bearings or to grind the sides down a little bit to fit the same thrust bearings as on the shift lever. Since the block is held on by the c-clip I would think that the side/side fore/aft motion would be transmitted from shaft to bearings against the sides of the block in the same way as on the shift lever.

Also, I am considering just drilling the black shifter rod all the way through for a bolt/nut combination instead of the odd factory pointy-end bolt that holds it all together.

whalebird 05-24-2012 04:12 PM

Just doing my shifter too. I replaced the shift lever, and that was a huge improvement, but the shifter rod is slightly worn as well. I have parts in hand and will drill the shifter rod to 12mm and install a hardened steel bushing 10mm ID, and 12mmOD. This sleeve will be replaceable and should hold up better than the shift rod steel, M-C has similar sized bronze bushings that should work too.
I will then look at the rear with consideration of your aforementioned mods. Thanks.

Side question, I am also going to attempt to make my own front swaybar mount(inner) supports similar to the KLA versions. Anybody have plans or measurments to go by? This should be easy with a piece of flat steel stock, no?

mazdaverx7 05-24-2012 04:15 PM

the shift lever on my 944 is new, however the shifter rod has wallowed out causing a TON of slop. i pan on using robstah's plan to fix that issue. will prob buy a faulty used shifter seeing as mine is new. V2Rocket_aka944 keep us updated on how everything pans out for you!!

V2Rocket 05-24-2012 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by whalebird (Post 9558206)
Just doing my shifter too. I replaced the shift lever, and that was a huge improvement, but the shifter rod is slightly worn as well. I have parts in hand and will drill the shifter rod to 12mm and install a hardened steel bushing 10mm ID, and 12mmOD. This sleeve will be replaceable and should hold up better than the shift rod steel, M-C has similar sized bronze bushings that should work too.
I will then look at the rear with consideration of your aforementioned mods. Thanks.

Side question, I am also going to attempt to make my own front swaybar mount(inner) supports similar to the KLA versions. Anybody have plans or measurments to go by? This should be easy with a piece of flat steel stock, no?

Should be pretty easy, just remember your trigonometry...or get a ruler out :p

acorad 06-04-2012 08:49 PM

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Do the thrust bearing and its two washers that are added to the driver's side of the shift rod cause the shift lever to tilt to the driver's side a little?

Is it enough to be noticeable or annoying?


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V2Rocket 06-04-2012 10:39 PM

The bearings wouldn't change the tilt that is already there, likely due to the orientation of the trans-end linkage.

By the way, got my bearings installed yesterday - feels NICE.

acorad 06-05-2012 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944 (Post 9556172)
By the way, got my bearings installed yesterday - feels NICE.

Thanks V2, how did you get the old pin out of the shift lever?

V2Rocket 06-05-2012 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by acorad (Post 9587914)
Thanks V2, how did you get the old pin out of the shift lever?

Angle grinder makes quick work out of the original weld on the shift lever - maybe 30 seconds of grinding down. Once you see the full circle of the end of the pin in the ground-down weld, a punch and sledge hammer knock it out easily. Make sure to grind the weld fairly flat so that the bolt rests evenly.


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