Notices
924/931/944/951/968 Forum Porsche 924, 924S, 931, 944, 944S, 944S2, 951, and 968 discussion, how-to guides, and technical help. (1976-1995)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Transmission drain plug size?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-05-2012, 09:14 PM
  #1  
Lemming
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Altered States of America (B'ham)
Posts: 6,424
Received 85 Likes on 71 Posts
Default Transmission drain plug size?

Anyone know the size on the drain plug. Not the size of the hex needed to remove, the actual plug size (ie, 1/2 NPT)? Why, I'm looking for a simple solution for measuring trans oil temps. Easiest solution is to find a sender, or adapter, that will fit in the drain plug hole.
Old 03-05-2012, 09:31 PM
  #2  
bad_monkey
Racer
 
bad_monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 468
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Good idea - I think the plug is 22mm but I'll take a look and see if I can find the old one to measure.

Might be time to start a thread "Telemetry: things to measure on a 944 and how to measure them".

C
Old 03-05-2012, 10:10 PM
  #3  
Lemming
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Altered States of America (B'ham)
Posts: 6,424
Received 85 Likes on 71 Posts
Default

At it's widest it is slightly larger than 24mm and it tapers down.
Old 03-05-2012, 10:44 PM
  #4  
LuigiVampa
WRONGLY ACCUSED!
Rennlist Member
 
LuigiVampa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Connecticut Valley Region
Posts: 14,466
Received 3,277 Likes on 1,585 Posts
Default

The way I normally figure stuff like this out is to take the bolt or nut and go to a parts store which has the nuts and bolts available see what fits. I know this is kind of a "duh" answer but it works.

Or you could just buy a new one from Pelican and drill a whole in it:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...9%2C%20Each%20
Old 03-05-2012, 11:28 PM
  #5  
Lemming
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Altered States of America (B'ham)
Posts: 6,424
Received 85 Likes on 71 Posts
Default

Drilling and tapping is easy, it's getting the sender head to fit in the allen head recess that's the problem.
Old 03-05-2012, 11:41 PM
  #6  
LuigiVampa
WRONGLY ACCUSED!
Rennlist Member
 
LuigiVampa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Connecticut Valley Region
Posts: 14,466
Received 3,277 Likes on 1,585 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Lemming
Drilling and tapping is easy, it's getting the sender head to fit in the allen head recess that's the problem.
I think you would have to make it so you could unscrew the sender before removing the plug.
Old 03-06-2012, 12:50 AM
  #7  
944Ross
Rennlist Member
 
944Ross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NM (ABQ)
Posts: 2,238
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

PET calls it out as an M24 x 1.5. I would swear it's a taper thread, 24mm would be real close to 1/2"NPT, but I would expect the Germans to use ISO tapered threads, which are not the same as NPT.
Old 03-06-2012, 08:55 AM
  #8  
Lemming
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Altered States of America (B'ham)
Posts: 6,424
Received 85 Likes on 71 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
I think you would have to make it so you could unscrew the sender before removing the plug.
The sender head will just barely fit, so close that you cannot get a wrench or socket on it to completely screw it in, I tried!

Originally Posted by 944Ross
PET calls it out as an M24 x 1.5. I would swear it's a taper thread, 24mm would be real close to 1/2"NPT, but I would expect the Germans to use ISO tapered threads, which are not the same as NPT.
I was looking on this website for a possible answer (http://www.conexmetals.com/thread/iso-coarse-thread.htm). I will measure the plug I have but I am pretty sure it is tapered. If not, I wouldn't expect it to seal.
Old 03-06-2012, 09:28 AM
  #9  
JohnKoaWood
Nordschleife Master
 
JohnKoaWood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fly Away
Posts: 7,759
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Lemming
The sender head will just barely fit, so close that you cannot get a wrench or socket on it to completely screw it in, I tried!



I was looking on this website for a possible answer (http://www.conexmetals.com/thread/iso-coarse-thread.htm). I will measure the plug I have but I am pretty sure it is tapered. If not, I wouldn't expect it to seal.
Drill through oversized, and use a nut to secure the sender on the inside... a couple of sealing washers to seal the mess up and you should be in buisness...

OR you could always drill and tap a different location on the case... bottom of the case would be prefereable to make sure the sender is always within the fluid.
Old 03-06-2012, 12:18 PM
  #10  
Lemming
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Altered States of America (B'ham)
Posts: 6,424
Received 85 Likes on 71 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JohnKoaWood
Drill through oversized, and use a nut to secure the sender on the inside... a couple of sealing washers to seal the mess up and you should be in buisness...
I would then have to use a pipe wrench to install/remove the plug as the sender would need to be removed prior to using the allen head.
Old 03-06-2012, 01:29 PM
  #11  
JohnKoaWood
Nordschleife Master
 
JohnKoaWood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fly Away
Posts: 7,759
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Lemming
I would then have to use a pipe wrench to install/remove the plug as the sender would need to be removed prior to using the allen head.
Depending on the sensor... type you could try to source a low profile sensor, and recess the allen wrench to fit over the sensor (I actually have 3 different tools for the trans plugs, the largest of which is a simple 17mm? allen wrench from sears), or extend the walls of the plug to accept a wrench... just thinking outside the box here...
Old 03-06-2012, 02:15 PM
  #12  
V2Rocket
Rainman
Rennlist Member
 
V2Rocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 45,498
Received 633 Likes on 490 Posts
Default

is the plug aluminum or steel? if steel, get a nut that fits in the allen socket and weld it, and put the sender inside the nut. then remove the plug as a whole with a standard wrench.


if al, tack an AN fitting with shoulders for a wrench to the plug
Old 03-06-2012, 08:12 PM
  #13  
Van
Rennlist Member
 
Van's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Hyde Park, NY
Posts: 12,007
Received 88 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

It's definitely metric, as apposed to NPT. For my trans cooler, I welded a steel -10AN fitting on a stock plug.

Any reason why you don't want to just measure temp from the outside of the case? Much cleaner.

I picked up some of these: http://www.paperthermometer.com/pages/indust.html#8temp - but haven't actually used them yet.
Old 03-06-2012, 08:53 PM
  #14  
dontnow
Pro
 
dontnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How about something like this, they have a couple thread sizes, and use a reducer if needed:
http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/3589/VDO323064/
Old 03-06-2012, 09:08 PM
  #15  
V2Rocket
Rainman
Rennlist Member
 
V2Rocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 45,498
Received 633 Likes on 490 Posts
Default

too risky to tap the oem trans cooler?


Quick Reply: Transmission drain plug size?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:53 AM.