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I found a great article in Motor Magazine about the European DIN wiring that we have in our cars. It explains alot about the diagrams and even has a chart with pin #s and designations. It is in Motor magazine in the April 2003 issue. It is also supposed to be on the web at <a href="http://www.motor.com" target="_blank">www.motor.com</a> I didn't see it on there, the March issue is still the newest one on the site. When it shows on their site check it out. Print it and put it in your reference binder! After reading the article, it seems like life could be alot easier from here on. Just though I'd share. It seems to be the cool thing to do around here. <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" />