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Old 01-15-2010, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lart951 View Post
Now part the thing
He wouldn't be that silly, surely?

A 951S nicely restored is probably one of the few 944 variants that is guaranteed to hold collectible value indefinitely. Long after 99% of the examples on this list have been to the scrapper, I believe there will be a continuing interest and market for these intriguing cars. They represent a pinnacle of sorts for the development of the 944 turbos in particular, and the 924/944 series in general. I think that is the point that many people in this thread have missed.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark944na86 View Post
He wouldn't be that silly, surely?

A 951S nicely restored is probably one of the few 944 variants that is guaranteed to hold collectible value indefinitely. Long after 99% of the examples on this list have been to the scrapper, I believe there will be a continuing interest and market for these intriguing cars. They represent a pinnacle of sorts for the development of the 944 turbos in particular, and the 924/944 series in general. I think that is the point that many people in this thread have missed.
They may hold their "value", but their "value" isn't much unfortunately...
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Originally Posted by ModdedEverything951S View Post
They may hold their "value", but their "value" isn't much unfortunately...
Nice examples of the 951S still sell routinely for > $10K, and I think their value is only being dragged down while a lot of the rolling junk with 944 badges are still playing out their dying days in the hands of much of the present ownership. Once the massacre by neglect and ignorance is over, the remaining well-cared for and genuinely collectible examples that have survived will probably recover their value.

I think in hindsight it will be seen that about now was probably the best time to buy one, if you wanted to keep one for any reasonable length of time. I must say I don't have much confidence for many of the other variants, apart from perhaps the 931 and very nicely preserved and original S2s. Luis' 951 cabriolet is rare enough that it might well make the cut, however.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:53 AM
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to the average porsche owner $10k is what they spend on starbux in a week. lmao!
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Originally Posted by Mark944na86 View Post
Nice examples of the 951S still sell routinely for > $10K,
Sadly realy really really nice examples dont sell for much more than 10K.
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom R. View Post
Sadly realy really really nice examples dont sell for much more than 10K.
Unfortunately...I would agree with you.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:32 PM
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Just wanted to post that today I got with Terry over at Robert's shop - Lufteknic. He very kindly forwarded me the repair records that they had on the car. I was impressed by the level of customer service - especially given that I am out of state and not that likely to end up being a client of theirs.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by carlege View Post
Damn josh what you have 3 951's now? 2 legit cars and a parts car?
I credit a very understanding wife. Seems like it will be interesting comparing a stock driving experience in a turbo S to my fiddled with 87 turbo. Plus now I can put a car seat in the back of the SR for the little fellow and leave my roll bar in the black car We'll see how long her understanding lasts!

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I once bought a 88 turbo S for $ 3500.00 best deal ever it gave me over $ 13, 500.00 in parts. Is too far from me, you deserve this car Josh you are a excellent seller and best of all honest.

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Dang - $13,500?? I figure if I parted this car there would only be about $6500 in it.


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Sadly realy really really nice examples dont sell for much more than 10K.
Agree about the sadly part.

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Old 01-15-2010, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh B View Post
I credit a very understanding wife. Seems like it will be interesting comparing a stock driving experience in a turbo S to my fiddled with 87 turbo. Plus now I can put a car seat in the back of the SR for the little fellow and leave my roll bar in the black car We'll see how long her understanding lasts!



Dang - $13,500?? I figure if I parted this car there would only be about $6500 in it.




Agree about the sadly part.
Josh, email me if you need a price list for turbo S parts. As I said before there is only two guys on rennlist that I consider honest trustworthy sellers, one is you the other Adalbert Picasporsche, good luck and in the middle of this recession parting this car can be worth more than the illusion of a collectible car.


I myself got lucky today scored a good one , I am picking this car tomorrow

1990 S2 race car, full cage, momo race seat, strut bar, M030 swaybars, momo steering , LSD s2 tranny, harness, turbo S wheels, extra set of wheels etc etc. for under lol......lol
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Originally Posted by Tom R. View Post
Sadly realy really really nice examples dont sell for much more than 10K.
What's even sadder is that what rates as "really really reallly nice" in the US at the moment rates as only "nice" anywhere else in the world, it seems. For example, 944s are still valued enough in Australia that a "nice" (or "really really really nice" converted to US 944 standards) S2 will sell for $20-25K (after exchange rate conversions that's about $18,600-23,250 in $US). The ill-maintained, crappy NAs are going through the wringer at the bottom end of the market here , like in the US -- but the S2s and late 951s are seen as much more desirable examples, and so prices are holding up much better.

And that's how I think this will all pan out. A few surviving cars will be interesting enough and rare enough to be stay desirable (= collectible), the rest will be parts and landfill. Remember that "collectible" doesn't necessarilly mean big bucks -- while a Mercedes gullwing is collectible, so too is a humble MGB. Collectible just means that successive owners will continue to put the money into keeping the cars on the road, and that the investment will be (at least partly) recouped when the car is sold later to the next owner.

In the shorter term though, particularly in the US, the 944 will continue to be without respect and generally underappreciated, largely because of the condition of the "average" 944 over there. Mostly, I think they are something of embarrasssment to the marque at the moment -- but once the current slaughter subsides, the few remaining "really really really nice" examples will slowly regain the respect they deserved all along.

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Old 01-15-2010, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ModdedEverything951S View Post
It is not a direct bolt in to your car.
I have a 90 S2... Are you sure a set of those seats wouldnt just bolt in..?
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Im glad to hear the car was not crushed.
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DANNiE View Post
I have a 90 S2... Are you sure a set of those seats wouldnt just bolt in..?
If your car has a one piece back, it does not have the center pivot cut out. Altho being a 90 model, it may be there. I've only ever checked early cars.
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