Delrin bushings for power steering rack
#6
If you get Delrin, make sure they fit right and there's zero gap. Here's what happens when another 944 racer installed Delrin steering rack bushings that didn't fit right...
The #66 car went around a 70-mph immediately in front of a pack of traffic, lost steering control, and spun out big time right in the middle of the turn. I'm the red #22 car, and I came within inches of wrecking into him hard, and I wasn't the only one.
Combine that with the various problems we've seen with Delrin torsion bar bushings and I have no desire to ever use them... poly bushings, or even fresh rubber, work pretty well, cost a lot less, and haven't caused any major problems.
The #66 car went around a 70-mph immediately in front of a pack of traffic, lost steering control, and spun out big time right in the middle of the turn. I'm the red #22 car, and I came within inches of wrecking into him hard, and I wasn't the only one.
Combine that with the various problems we've seen with Delrin torsion bar bushings and I have no desire to ever use them... poly bushings, or even fresh rubber, work pretty well, cost a lot less, and haven't caused any major problems.
#7
Drifting
If you look at the design, the drivers side bushing takes almost all of the torsional stress. At least that's what I think.
The part available from paragon can be a real pain to get in. Its a tight fit though which is a good thing i guess.
The part available from paragon can be a real pain to get in. Its a tight fit though which is a good thing i guess.
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#8
Drifting
I'm no fan of Delrin myself (or polyurethane either), but how is that even possible with a failed rack bushing? IIRC, the bushing lip on the rack would be captured in the mount even if the bushing isn't there. If it wasn't, I'd think the stock rubber bushing would shear out of the mount - especially as the rubber deteriorated. There had to be a bigger issue with #66. There's only about 1/2" play in the rack without the bushing that should have allowed him to maintain control.
#9
Nordschleife Master
I'm no fan of Delrin myself (or polyurethane either), but how is that even possible with a failed rack bushing? IIRC, the bushing lip on the rack would be captured in the mount even if the bushing isn't there. If it wasn't, I'd think the stock rubber bushing would shear out of the mount - especially as the rubber deteriorated. There had to be a bigger issue with #66. There's only about 1/2" play in the rack without the bushing that should have allowed him to maintain control.
#11
Race Car
To the OP......I've seen a PU bushing. Dont' know where it came from, but I have seen one.
#12
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
I knew they were out there somewhere:
http://www.rsbarn.com/RackTack.html
And a very interesting related thread on 951forums.com:
http://951forums.com/forums/index.php?topic=355.0
I think maybe I'll just replace with new OEM rubber.
http://www.rsbarn.com/RackTack.html
And a very interesting related thread on 951forums.com:
http://951forums.com/forums/index.php?topic=355.0
I think maybe I'll just replace with new OEM rubber.
#13
Rennlist Member
Does anybody sell polyeurethane bushings for these cars? It seems like there is nothing between the stock rubber stuff and then delrin/ball bearing bushings.
#14
Race Car
That's about as affordable as you are going to get.
Problem with these cars is that the the control arms don't rotate in a perfectly linear path, because of the way alignment is done on them - caster in the front, toe on the rear. As there is misalignment, control arm bushings are hard to do with anything but rubber or spherical bearings.