harrisonrick

I'm just guessing Eddie....it would make sense to think I've gained at least 20 HP with the chip and opened exhaust with a K & N.

My panties were riding and binding up this AM...but its all good brother, I'm chilled!

Jfrahm

The chassis VIN is always a ZZZ and the final VIN (on the A pillar in the USA) is not determined until the destination is known.

gtroth

--don't know the 8V's, but the S is a blast to drive above ~3800rpm. You'll have it there a lot.

Exhaust is different for the S, by the way (more expensive cat-back, with the resonator chamber), and it's hard to service the throttle, ref/speed sensor, and engine grounds since the intake layout is kind of screwy (really have to remove the intake manifold).

Automatic idle stabilization and round throttle cam are also nice plusses for the S.

rmconner80

I love how 8V owners dismiss the 16V S. "The 38hp difference is barely noticeable!!!"

Yeah right.

Then the same 8V owner turns around and talks in another post about how much more power they feel in the 8V car from the 0.7539 hp power bump of a K&N air filter

171 ft lbs of torques (thanks Jeremy) is actually not a bad number. And it is more than the 8V. Just like 188hp. Again, more than the 8V. And it feels pretty good througout the RPM range, but especially at the mid and higher RPMs. It gets to those RPMs fairly quickly for a 944. What's not to like? Why concentrate on what the car "should" be, and not what it "acutally is"? It's a more powerful 944, something everybody wants. Something everybody spends $$$$ trying to get with bolt ons.

Sure the S2 is more powerful. Sure the 968 beats that. Sure we could come up with a list of 10,000 newer, more modern cars that beat that. I like the 8V. But the S is a great car too, produced for only two years and in low numbers at that.

MM951

AFAIK, It's normal, don't worry! All 4 of my previous p-cars have had the same thing

ktel

Is this true ? Can somebody provide me a photo evidence of the fact ? I didn't inspect the a-pillar VIN plate





Are these pictures showing something weird ??? Please help ! Is this a proper 944 s engine code, and shouldn't the displacement be 2479 ????

jstand22

Exactly, the S is a great car, and it is NOTICEABLY more powerful than an 8v, and the excuse that "it has more moving parts so it will break down more" is simply not true. The only major internal difference in the S is one extra camshaft and a tensioner/chain that everyone sh**s their pants when they talk about. If you check those at the specified intervals the car is just as reliable as any 8v. In fact I'll just come out and say it...the S can be more reliable. It has a better engine monitoring system, better ignition system, better idle control system, a better transmission, and more horsepower and torque. In my eyes the S is a better car.

And yes I have driven 8v cars, including a 2.7, and the S is a better car in my opinion. Understand that I'm not trashing on 8v cars, I love them too, there's not a 944 out there that I don't deeply appreciate. So please understand that this is just my opinion.

Ktel: The VIN on my S starts like this - - WP0AA09....

Catfood

What makes a 944 a great car to drive is new shocks in all four corners and properly set up brakes. Most cars can do above 100 mph, but you lose your competitors in the turns. I found maintaining both cars was pretty similar in price.

Jfrahm

The VIN looks typical, I don't know about the displacement but I do not see why that would be a big deal.

Chassis looks like a 1987 944S as per this page:
http://www.connact.com/~kgross/FAQ/944faq02.html

You can check the engine code tab, if you can see it, for the M44/40 944S motor but I reckon you can see that it's a 16v. I have seen engine numbers in a book somewhere but do not have that info handy.

If you look at it again, or another 944, just check the VIN tab and you will probably find it matches the paperwork and mostly matches the proto-vin chassis number WP0AZZZ... Good to check that to see if somehow the car or VIN has been altered.

Also check the option tag under the rear carpet and maybe look for the VIN tags on the front wings/fenders.

Good luck,
-Joel.

joonas

What you mean with that?