How light weight can you build a 944 ?
#61
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IMO you should stick to GTS2, you won't have the HP to run down the straights with the GTS3 front runners, even if you got the cars weight down to 1600.
Carl Picelle has done very well running a lightweight 944 against the heavier 968s in GTS2 in the NASA Great Lakes Region.
OF COURSE - if you want to drop a 968 engine in your car, I have one for sale !!!!
Carl Picelle has done very well running a lightweight 944 against the heavier 968s in GTS2 in the NASA Great Lakes Region.
OF COURSE - if you want to drop a 968 engine in your car, I have one for sale !!!!
I had planned on putting the spare tire area on a diet. Some other plans also.
I know I will lose in the straight's but I plan on racing with corners
My home track is TWS and it has a couple of long straights, it will be a challenge no doubt, but it's the challenges that make it all more fun to do. If it were easy it wouldn't be any fun !
How much for the 968 engine ? With wires, control unit etc ? I won't go there just yet, although I wouldn't rule it out.
#62
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There are 944 cup cars that are allow more mods and these could be 147 whp.
#63
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That could be, I had thought they were 944 Spec but it could have been 944 Cup. I wouldn't have even known the hp since I was there with a GTS3 996 but they just happened to be on the dyno in front of us so I got to see what they were doing.
What do the Cup cars do to get 147 rwhp ?
#64
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replacing stock hood with glassfibre hood
I'm seriously thinking of updating my 968 with glassfibre hood (OEM has dents which cannot be repaired). I'm building car towards Club Sport style, thus weight savings would suit well to my plan.
Any pro's and con's why I should / should not do this update?
issues what I can come up to, are
- how to manage heat from 3.0 16V (it does heat alot, can glassfibre hood manage this, or do I need insulations etc.)
- is there any problems with fitting the CF hood? I've heard AIR and Getty Design make good glass fibre hoods. What about V-Zweeden (would be closer to Finland)
- What is the total gain in weight savings when replacing the OEM hood with fibre hood?
- Any other issues I should be worried about?
Thanks in advance!
Any pro's and con's why I should / should not do this update?
issues what I can come up to, are
- how to manage heat from 3.0 16V (it does heat alot, can glassfibre hood manage this, or do I need insulations etc.)
- is there any problems with fitting the CF hood? I've heard AIR and Getty Design make good glass fibre hoods. What about V-Zweeden (would be closer to Finland)
- What is the total gain in weight savings when replacing the OEM hood with fibre hood?
- Any other issues I should be worried about?
Thanks in advance!
#65
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I've not had any problems with my 968 engine and heat and I'm racing in the SE US where we see temps of near 100oF and 95% humidity. I would check your cooling system to make sure that everything is working fine. Make sure that you run the undertray, that helps to funnel air through the system correctly.
#66
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Thanks for your comments Lemming. I think I'll head to the glassfibre hood way, I want to get car lighter anyways. I will order the hood from V-zweeden, I'll update my experiences when the car is ready!(maybe in couple of months..)
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It will be fun to see where this project goes.
Oh and since we are talking weights, my 83 Spec car is at 2440, but still has working head lights, power windows, heater core, heavy muffler, original starter, huge Wal-Mart battery, over built cage (is there really such a thing), and all of the original glass.
-bj
Oh and since we are talking weights, my 83 Spec car is at 2440, but still has working head lights, power windows, heater core, heavy muffler, original starter, huge Wal-Mart battery, over built cage (is there really such a thing), and all of the original glass.
-bj
#68
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It will be fun to see where this project goes.
Oh and since we are talking weights, my 83 Spec car is at 2440, but still has working head lights, power windows, heater core, heavy muffler, original starter, huge Wal-Mart battery, over built cage (is there really such a thing), and all of the original glass.
-bj
Oh and since we are talking weights, my 83 Spec car is at 2440, but still has working head lights, power windows, heater core, heavy muffler, original starter, huge Wal-Mart battery, over built cage (is there really such a thing), and all of the original glass.
-bj
Anyone have any input on how competitive the GTS2 class is in FL region? I see 8 races at 2 venues with fastest 6 counting, but how many race in the GTS2 class? I would think GTS3 is a lot more competitive.
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It will be fun to see where this project goes.
Oh and since we are talking weights, my 83 Spec car is at 2440, but still has working head lights, power windows, heater core, heavy muffler, original starter, huge Wal-Mart battery, over built cage (is there really such a thing), and all of the original glass.
-bj
Oh and since we are talking weights, my 83 Spec car is at 2440, but still has working head lights, power windows, heater core, heavy muffler, original starter, huge Wal-Mart battery, over built cage (is there really such a thing), and all of the original glass.
-bj
#70
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I too am interested in how this progresses as I am currently building one for next season. 944na, so spec or GTS2. I like the "any mods" and power to weight classes in GTS as it basically lets you build the racecar you want and still race competitively.
Anyone have any input on how competitive the GTS2 class is in FL region? I see 8 races at 2 venues with fastest 6 counting, but how many race in the GTS2 class? I would think GTS3 is a lot more competitive.
Anyone have any input on how competitive the GTS2 class is in FL region? I see 8 races at 2 venues with fastest 6 counting, but how many race in the GTS2 class? I would think GTS3 is a lot more competitive.
I also agree that GTS3 does seem to have more people in it currently although I guess if we all build cars then GTS2 will grow also. My plan is to get into GTS2 and then pull out all I can to see how competeive I can get into GTS3. It seems to be a stretch for a 944 NA to get into GTS3 where it can run with the top cars although I am going to attempt it anyway.
I will update the progress with the car, as I would love to hear about anyone else doing similiar things.
Thanks,
Viking
#71
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The downside, be prepared to open your wallet Because GTS is not a "spec" series, people will spend big $$$$ making their car as fast as they can.
#72
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I know many can out spend me, but I have built a few cars before so hopefully I'll get in the game with more experience vs more $$$$
If I can do that then I can lay out an outline for many to follow to get into GTS3 with a reasonably priced reliable car.
Are you going to the NASA Nationals this year ?
I will be there wrenching on a GTS3 996, let me know if you are I would love to check out your car and talk.
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Anyone need any interior parts in black ? Flat mirrors, left or right ? Headlight motor and linkage ? If so I am going to put them all be on Ebay soon unless someone wants to offer me something for them here.
My project is getting lighter and lighter ......
My project is getting lighter and lighter ......
#75
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Ok, I only worked for a couple hrs today but got it down to 2590lbs with very little work. I will work on it some more tomorrow and try to get below 2500. Headlights, all body panels, and glass are still in so lots to go.
Looking to start a sub 2k club soon !
Looking to start a sub 2k club soon !