Possible fraud?
10-03-2006, 08:53 PM
#1
Nordschleife Master
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Possible fraud?
I received this email inquiring my 944 for sale....fraud or not?
"> Thanks for your mail. I am very sorry for not
> getting back to you
> as expected, i was trying to conclude issue of
> payment with my client. I
> am delighted to tell you that my client appreciates
> and commends your
> vehicle, with full interest, he is willing to carry
> on with this
> transaction. I have finalized with my client on the
> price of $5000 which is
> the last asking price for your vehicle and its ok by
> him, I have
> forwarded your vehicle information including your
> last mail to him for his
> proper records.
> He was surpose to be present in order to view the
> car, but due to his
> tight business he
> couldn't be present now.my customer is from canada
> and the car will be
> ship
> to canada. But however, he instructed to proceed
> with your transaction.
> He also instructed me to inform you that payment
> will get to you in a
> US certified cashier cheque of $9,800, which is a
> refund payment of a
> cancelled order earlier made by my client before he
> travelled to japan
> on a business trip,for a previous car and its
> shipment charges etc,but
> it was unfortunately sold.The The amount on the
> check he deposited for
> car is bigger than what should be paid to you now
> and due to company
> policy this cheque has to be made out in this amount
> to you,Because
> company policy only allows a refund payment on one
> cashier cheque so the
> check is now meant for the total expenses which
> includes the purchase of
> your car ,the pick up of the car from its present
> location and the
> shipping charges and other necessary shipping
> arrangements. So you are
> required to deduct the cost of your vehicle (car)
> $5,000, when payment gets
> to you and refund balance $4,800 to the Agent ( our
> shipper ) for him
> to be able to offset shipping & tax charges, and
> other cosmetic
> repair costs.
>
> My agent will be coming for the pick up of the car
> from its present
> location.so you don't have to bother yourself about
> the pick up and
> shipping arrangements,while title papers and other
> necessary documents will
> be sent by you via service courier to my customer.
> Please Confirm this and
> Provide name...............
> ,Address ........................and
> Phone Number.........................
> for check payment to be delivered to you via
> courier service.
> Thanks
>
>
"
"> Thanks for your mail. I am very sorry for not
> getting back to you
> as expected, i was trying to conclude issue of
> payment with my client. I
> am delighted to tell you that my client appreciates
> and commends your
> vehicle, with full interest, he is willing to carry
> on with this
> transaction. I have finalized with my client on the
> price of $5000 which is
> the last asking price for your vehicle and its ok by
> him, I have
> forwarded your vehicle information including your
> last mail to him for his
> proper records.
> He was surpose to be present in order to view the
> car, but due to his
> tight business he
> couldn't be present now.my customer is from canada
> and the car will be
> ship
> to canada. But however, he instructed to proceed
> with your transaction.
> He also instructed me to inform you that payment
> will get to you in a
> US certified cashier cheque of $9,800, which is a
> refund payment of a
> cancelled order earlier made by my client before he
> travelled to japan
> on a business trip,for a previous car and its
> shipment charges etc,but
> it was unfortunately sold.The The amount on the
> check he deposited for
> car is bigger than what should be paid to you now
> and due to company
> policy this cheque has to be made out in this amount
> to you,Because
> company policy only allows a refund payment on one
> cashier cheque so the
> check is now meant for the total expenses which
> includes the purchase of
> your car ,the pick up of the car from its present
> location and the
> shipping charges and other necessary shipping
> arrangements. So you are
> required to deduct the cost of your vehicle (car)
> $5,000, when payment gets
> to you and refund balance $4,800 to the Agent ( our
> shipper ) for him
> to be able to offset shipping & tax charges, and
> other cosmetic
> repair costs.
>
> My agent will be coming for the pick up of the car
> from its present
> location.so you don't have to bother yourself about
> the pick up and
> shipping arrangements,while title papers and other
> necessary documents will
> be sent by you via service courier to my customer.
> Please Confirm this and
> Provide name...............
> ,Address ........................and
> Phone Number.........................
> for check payment to be delivered to you via
> courier service.
> Thanks
>
>
"
10-03-2006, 08:56 PM
#3
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Yes, it is a scam. He will try to send you a fake cashier's check/US postal money order for more than the cost of the car and then ask you to cash it and send him back the difference via Western Union or Money Gram (the fastest ways to send money to scammers world wide). The bank will (if you're lucky) spot the check is fake and not cash it and you will be on the hook for attempted fraud. If you're not lucky, the bank will cash the check/money order and you will owe that money to the bank once they find out the check/money order is fake (which can take up to a year). Either way it's still a scam and possible bad times for you.
10-03-2006, 09:28 PM
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No one buys a mid 80's car using a agent unless it is a Barrett Jackson car so when the word "client" is used it is a scam. "Client" is used in most all schemes. Dead ringer.
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10-03-2006, 10:05 PM
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My Mercedes is for sale and I got one of the same e-mails. I just told them to Western Union *me* the full funds and I'd be happy to release it after that. Funny.. the e-mails quit after that! 
10-03-2006, 10:23 PM
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Scam.....
I've gotten plenty of those myself, but I'm suprised you haven't sold your 944 yet. Just avoid deals that sound too good, and any emails with "client" and "shipping agent" should be avoided.
I've gotten plenty of those myself, but I'm suprised you haven't sold your 944 yet. Just avoid deals that sound too good, and any emails with "client" and "shipping agent" should be avoided.
10-03-2006, 11:38 PM
#13
Team Owner
Of course it isn't a scam ..just have him wire transfer ten thousand dollars to you because it is the only amount you are allowed to receive and offer to send him a "us certified cashier check" for 4800. :-)
