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Old 03-18-2004, 10:17 AM
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Zoltan (Z-man) has a caster block that was just replaced (he killed it with only 16x8s), I think he was planning to post a pic, don't know if he did...
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So if I return my 86 951 from 17" back to 16" would I need to do anything other then an allignment?
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The TSB doesn't say anything about the 86 951. Why not?
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Originally posted by schnellfahrer
The TSB doesn't say anything about the 86 951. Why not?
Because there are no "approved" wheels in early offset.

dme, Assuming that the alignment was revised when the wheels were installed, it would need to be reset back to the ogiginal settings. Of course, depending on usage, you my want to run your own alignment set-up. there is no need to remove any upgraded parts as they arte nice tohave even with stock size tires.
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Originally Posted by tifosiman
FYI.

ARTICLE BEGINNING

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN

17 INCH APPROVED WHEELS & TIRES

Model(s): 1987-On Porsche 944 (with M30 option)
1987-On Porsche 944S (with M30 option)
1987-On Porsche 944 T (with M30 option)
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1989-On Porsche 944 S2

Group: 4
Bulletin No.: 9303
Date: September 28, 1993

SERVICE INFORMATION

Concern

Installing 17" Porsche wheels on vehicles previously equipped with 16" wheels.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

Installation Information 1. Front and rear fender well lips must be reworked and/or checked for adequate tire clearance. See Fig. 1.

2. Suspension travel must also be checked. Parts such as brake lines, hoses and brackets must have adequate clearance.

3. New caster eccentrics, rear mounts and nuts must be installed in the front control arms. This change is necessary due to a change in caster specification on vehicles equipped with Porsche 17" wheels. The specification for vehicles equipped with 17" wheels is 3'-15'-45.
See Fig. 2.

4. Vehicles must have a rear stabilizer bar.

5. When adjusting vehicles to new caster specification, all alignment values should be checked at that time.

6. When summer tires are used on vehicles with 17" Porsche wheels, snow chains cannot be used. If winter tires are used, only snow chains with Porsche Part Number 911 361 924 00 may be used.

7. Tire pressures for front and rear 17" Porsche wheels is to be set at 2.5 bar (36 PSI) at approximately 20'C (68'F).

8. When using this rim and tire combination, a 17mm spacer plate must be installed on the rear wheel hub. The customer must be informed that if the emergency wheel is needed, the spacer must be removed.

9. Not for Cabriolet vehicles.

APPROVED WHEEL & TIRE TABLE

Tire size Rim size Offset Position Note

225/45 ZR 17 7,t Jxl7 AH 65mm Front
Summer tires 255/40 ZR 17 9 Jxl7 AH 55mm Rear
(See installation information A through G.)

225/45 ZR 17 8 Jxl7 AH 52mm Front
Summer tires 255/40 ZR 17 94.@ JX17 AH 68nm Rear
(See installation information A through I.)

205/50 R 17 7;-i Jxl7 AH 65mm Front
Winter tires 225/45 R 17 8 Jxl7 AH 52mm Rear
(See installation information A through G.)

NOTE: When using this rim and tire combination, a 17mm spacer plate must be installed on the rear wheel hub. The customer must be informed that if the emergency wheel is needed, the spacer must be removed.

PARTS INFORMATION TABLE

Description Part Number Quantity

Spacer Ring 951 331 611 02 2
Wheel Bolt 904 341 671 00 10

Wheel Nut 999 1 82 003 36 10


APPROVED WHEEL PART NUMBER TABLE

Size Offset Part Number

7;-i Jxl7 AH 65mm 96536212405
8 Jxl7 AH 52mm 96536212601
9 Jxl7 AH 55mm 96536212800
91.@ Jxl7 AH 68mm 96536212805


APPROVED TIRES AND SIZES (SUMMER VERSIONS) TABLE

Size Makes

225/45 ZR 17 Front Bridgestone Expedia S-01 Nl
255/40 ZR 17 Rear Continental Sport Contact CZ 91
NO Pirelli P700-Z
NO Yokohama A 008P
NO Michelin MXX 3
NO or MXX
NO Pilot SX

APPROVED TIRES AND SIZES (WINTER VERSIONS) TABLE

Size Makes

205/50 R 17 89 H M&S Front Bridgestone WT05
225/45 R 17 90 H M&S Rear Continental TS 750 Pirelli winter 210 Performance

SUSPENSION PART NUMBER TABLE

Suspension Parts

1. Rear Mount

Part Number Quantity Required 951 341 023 00 2 each

2. Eccentric 951 341 431 02 2 each 3. Nut (torque to 100 Nm) 900 910 115 02 4 each

END OF ARTICLE
In regards to the TSB for the 17" wheels, there is a revised alignment specification in Service Procedure 3. It says "see fig. 2". Does anyone have a copy of figure 2?

Also, since I'm going to be using my 15" wheels for winter tires, and my 17" wheels for summer tires, does that mean I need to get an alignment each time I change my wheels to correct the specification?
Old 11-10-2004, 06:16 PM
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If the overall diameter of the tires on the 17's = the overall diameter of the tires on the 15's, then there shouldn't be a need for an alignment.
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then why is porsche recommending it in the TSB?



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