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Not_Sure 05-18-2019 01:50 AM

cheapest springplate bushing option?
 
well, seems like the weltmeister stuff is no longer available. looking for a cheap replacement bushing, don't seem to see anyone else that makes a poly bushing? OR a cheap. delrin bushing (don't see why they need to cost what they do)

Will superbeetle stuff work, like the torsion bars will?

MAGK944 05-18-2019 08:24 AM

Elephant Racing racing does a kit for $120.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...69a008cae4.png

thomasmryan 05-18-2019 08:45 AM

yep. best improvement for restoring the factory feel in the tail. they also sell a sport hardness.

one must be quick with the super glue and some 6" metric all thread helps squeezing them in the first time.

(the super beetle front suspension might as well be built out of sticks and hay. the worst design ever)

V2Rocket 05-18-2019 10:45 AM

i did the ER bushings in late 2014 and dont recall the glue?
maybe it was there but i just dont remember it...would think the compression fit of those bushings would make them grab the spring plate tube pretty hard though.

Not_Sure 05-18-2019 11:22 AM

yes, but beetle bushings cost $5.00 they are practically the same thing.

V2Rocket 05-18-2019 12:00 PM

if theyre $5 then why even take the time to post the thread?

buy em and find out if they work, and let us know.

MAGK944 05-18-2019 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Not_Sure (Post 15849373)
yes, but beetle bushings cost $5.00 they are practically the same thing.

Have you even taken the time to look at pictures of super beetle bushes and compared them to pictures of 944 bushes?

They look totally different to me.

tempest411 05-19-2019 01:54 AM

It's all a numbers game. The bushings are different between VWs and Porsches. The sell lots and lots of VW bushings, so the per-unit price goes down. Sometimes we get lucky and the part is the same. Most of the time we don't. Porsche and economy of maintenance don't really go together, so no surprises there.

Not_Sure 05-19-2019 03:36 AM

well part of the reason I bring this up, is i have come across several threads on VW forums of them installing 944 trailing arms AND spring plates. Its difficult to tell from pictures, however I have seen listings for bushings both "knobby" and "round", so it seems there was some possibility.

harveyf 05-19-2019 09:49 AM

Keep in mind that the stock bushing is rubber. The OD and the ID are fixed. The rotation occurs by flexing the rubber. It may look like simple rubber but for sure there are some details to the formula that allow it to flex like this millions of times. $5 bushings are probably knockoffs and who knows what they are made out of.

Almost all of the aftermarket bushings that are "hard" such as Delrin require that either the ID or the OD rotate. On the OD, the housing if very rough and I find fitment to be iffy. These are a compromise but do give a firmer suspension compliance.

The really expensive high end bushings use metal bearings (ball, roller). These give a very precise suspension response but still allow the necessary rotation. They will not be $5, they'll be $500.

V2Rocket 05-19-2019 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Not_Sure (Post 15850810)
well part of the reason I bring this up, is i have come across several threads on VW forums of them installing 944 trailing arms AND spring plates. Its difficult to tell from pictures, however I have seen listings for bushings both "knobby" and "round", so it seems there was some possibility.

even the torsion bars themselves interchange between super beetle and 944.
but the aluminum "carrier mount" that hangs the suspension from the car, and houses the bushings, is a different shape overall.
it's worth the $5 to investigate though.


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