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tc944 02-09-2019 09:27 AM

Do you reuse your halfshaft bolts?
 
Putting my track car back together after a suspension upgrade. The bolts for the half shafts appear to be original. Because of the stresses these are under I ordered new and replaced all of them. Wondering if that is common practice or am I being overly cautious?

wildcat077 02-09-2019 09:46 AM

You can buy a box of generic grade 8 , 8 x 1.25 Allen bolts that are much cheaper than the 12 point OEM units and are less prone to stripping.
As far as stress goes , i think the torque is 37 ft/lbs or 50 ft/lbs ??? and with 8 bolts per end , the key is to cleaning off any residual grease before installing and torquing !

GPA951s 02-09-2019 09:52 AM

I just change the ones that are not in good shape other than that I re-use Never had an issue..

V2Rocket 02-09-2019 10:26 AM

stock bolts will take a higher torquing than allen bolts, fwiw.

spec is only 33 ftlb so either will do though.

i reuse em.

odonnell 02-09-2019 10:57 AM

I think they're 12.9 bolts. I've reused them many times but switch them out every few times. I went to 12.9 studs with grade 10 nuts on the outer flanges, makes installation a lot less messy.

Jay Wellwood 02-09-2019 11:24 AM

And use with these locking washers to ensure you never have a bolt come loose.

https://www.belmetric.com/index.php?...1ssdnt1mv9j0l3

thomasmryan 02-09-2019 12:11 PM

if the mating surfaces, threads and fasteners are acetone clean, there is less of a chance of the bolts working their way back out. difficult but doable. I usually go through 50 q-tips and get flogged on brake cleaner cleaning each hole one at a time after the CVs are in position but not torqued yet.

be sure your replacement fasteners protrude the rear of the flange a thread or a thread and a half.

drivers side inner gets the exhaust heat so rotate that cv whenever you relube.

tc944 02-09-2019 04:15 PM

Thanks everyone. Next time I have them off I will use lock washers. I think the studs are a great idea too!

What got me thinking about this was, we worry about fatiguing bolts by stretching them, so do they also fatigue from shear loads?

odonnell 02-09-2019 07:28 PM

The bolts should never be in a shear loading condition. When torqued properly they should purely be in tension, the torque is passed via the axle flanges pressed up against the drive flanges. The problem is when they loosen and then they are in shear/bending. Then they should be replaced. Pure tension should not fatigue them significantly unless you overtighten them.

951and944S 02-09-2019 07:50 PM

I re-use.

And those lock washers are such a pain in the a$$, ditched them after trying them 1 time.

Key to the stock bolts is keeping the triple square drive pocket clean during install and removal.
It's easy to get grease on the threads during a messy removal/install but you have to keep the threads clean (chlorinated brake cleaner) and secure them with blue loctite.
We run same width tires all around so we rotate the all weekend.
With all 4 wheels off the ground, it's easy to slip around the back and check cv bolts once or twice a weekend.

T

Wisconsin Joe 02-13-2019 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by tc944 (Post 15627229)
Thanks everyone. Next time I have them off I will use lock washers. I think the studs are a great idea too!

What got me thinking about this was, we worry about fatiguing bolts by stretching them, so do they also fatigue from shear loads?

As was noted, they aren't in shear. They hold the CV 'body' to the stub axle or output shafts

The torque on the bolts isn't high enough to worry about bolt stretch.

Head bolts are a good example of that.


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