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Trader220 02-04-2019 08:25 PM

Fuchs on an 88 944?
 
Would 16 by 6 and 7 Fuchs work on an 88 944?
I have a couple sets from 911's and I just picked up a 944. I know Fuchs came on some years I just can recall which year 944 will take em.

thanks

MAGK944 02-04-2019 10:03 PM

Generally speaking original 911 16in Fuchs will fit any 944 up to and including 1986 except for the turbo. The offsets are 23.3 however your 88 and all 944’s from 87 on require wheel offsets in the 50’s, so no they will not fit.

jhowell371 02-05-2019 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Trader220 (Post 15616085)
Would 16 by 6 and 7 Fuchs work on an 88 944?
I have a couple sets from 911's and I just picked up a 944. I know Fuchs came on some years I just can recall which year 944 will take em.

thanks

Yes they can work on a late car, it has been done. Search this board, Pelican and 944online for a thread by a poster who did it. Tire size is critical so fat tires are out and fender lip clearance may be close or require rolling the lip in a bit.

kens_74911s 02-05-2019 01:10 PM

Fuchs
 
Here is how a set of 16x6 & 16x7 et23 Fuchs look on a 87 late offset 944.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3879c23f70.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b2462708a8.jpg

tifosiman 02-05-2019 02:49 PM

I'm not frowning or calling it "not correct", but I find it incredible that you aren't getting rub on that left rear wheel. Looking at the pic it looks like it would rub under suspension compression.

From my experience the left rear on these cars is always a little closer to the quarter panel lip than the right rear.

MAGK944 02-05-2019 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by tifosiman (Post 15617745)
I'm not frowning or calling it "not correct", but I find it incredible that you aren't getting rub on that left rear wheel. Looking at the pic it looks like it would rub under suspension compression.

From my experience the left rear on these cars is always a little closer to the quarter panel lip than the right rear.

I’ve tried and they do rub, at least on stock ride height and stock suspension. They rub quite badly at the rear on both left and right hand turns but especially on spirited right handers while accelerating out of a turn, made a huge noise and I thought my tires had shredded.

I know it has been done but fitting narrower than stock tires and performing bodywork in order to make them fit is not my idea of something “fitting”.

Trader220 02-05-2019 05:39 PM

Thanks for all the info. The car has a set of 17 inch Boxster wheels on it. I need to find something with the 50 plus offset that works for me.

tifosiman 02-05-2019 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by MAGK944 (Post 15618065)


I know it has been done but fitting narrower than stock tires and performing bodywork in order to make them fit is not my idea of something “fitting”.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...75999e3b35.jpg

mrgreenjeans 02-05-2019 07:00 PM

FUCHS wheels came on '87 thru '90 944s and 951s as an option, but not the traditional 5 blade ( or petal ) windmills as seen on earlier 944s and 911s.

They used a different offset as noted above by other posters, and came in 7, 8, and 9 x 16 inch sizes. They came in two different appearances, but both were based on the same forged wheel as offered on 928s and 911s originally. They are sometimes referred to as trash can lids or manhole covers, sewer lids, 7 spoke, pie plates, etc. These wheels are super strong and a bit heavy, but the wheel has an ardent following amongst those who respect their position in Porsche's options.
The ClubSport 7 spoke with cut out apertures is a brilliant wheel and has a totally different look as optioned on the '88.2 turbo S and the '89 turbo M030. The offset makes them appear as having a sort of bulging face on the fronts.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9d360a5745.jpg
As seen on a 928S

Am searching for one of my black '89 M030 with the ClubSports and will post it when I find it

MAGK944 02-05-2019 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by mrgreenjeans (Post 15618313)
FUCHS wheels came on '87 thru '90 944s and 951s as an option, but not the traditional 5 blade ( or petal ) windmills as seen on earlier 944s and 911...

Yeh I think folk here are all aware that Fuchs made, and still make, later offset wheels in various designs including a new version of the “petal” design. However the op was specifically asking about early 911 wheels in the Fuchs design that everyone is most familiar with. Agreed the CS and trash can lids wheels are great forged wheels though :thumbup:

mrgreenjeans 02-05-2019 08:39 PM

^^^^^ am quite sure new folks show up here every day and don't know about these wheels. There are a number of folks who are unaware of the two wheel styles of FUCHS which Porsche offered, and just giving those an opportunity to explore other options.

6 by 15 or 16 inch wheels off a 911 is not a good viable option for fitment to any late or series 2 - 944 if striving for a proper look OR fit. There are also considerations to what may rub on the inside of the wheel, as well as what is going on with body clearance issues. Using the charts offered on Clark's Garage, here, 944Online, and many other Porsche forums will provide you with all the ET/ offsets for each model.

Agreed on the wheels strength and durability of most every wheel Porsche has offered, but the FUCHS are well regarded worldwide as having the lowest weight and strongest breakage ratio of any wheel ever made.

Trader220 02-05-2019 10:05 PM

Did they make those 928 slotted wheels in 17s?

love em.

I am very familiar with the D90s I've owned quite a few 964s several cam with them.

mrgreenjeans 02-06-2019 03:10 AM

No on the original production of vintage 17 inch FUCHS in the Sewer lids. The ones on the 928S in image above are 16s.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9890655e73.jpg
These will fit perfectly and come in CUP 1 and CUP 2 design

( '89 - 951 - M030 ) They are the second set for this car, and the ClubSports are on it now.

Also, the D90 is different from the ClubSports in design and composition, as the CS are Forged FUCHS and the D90, tho similar is cast and I believe made by Ronal ? for Porsche.

mrgreenjeans 02-06-2019 03:24 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0e263b29c.jpg
ClubSport FUCHS on an '89 - 951 - M030

note the extra lip flare on the rear 16s which are an inch wider than the fronts.
These are getting to be a very hard to find and very expensive set to locate.

mrgreenjeans 02-06-2019 03:39 AM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...43b555272f.jpg
the red S2 is wearing D90s,
the black n/a 944 has it's original 'cookie cutter' wheels in 7x15 made by ATS


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