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Ashman 12-20-2018 10:01 PM

DIY Window Sticker
 
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So, I'm using some of the resources from other threads to make a replacement window sticker for my car. (current version attached)

What isn't clear to me is if there were such a thing as "dealer options". I seemed to see reference to those in another forum, but I can't tell if that was common or not.

For example, my car has the standard 944 alarm system with the extra key slot behind the driver's door. However, that code isn't on the options sticker on my trunk.

Can I assume that this was an option installed or requested by the dealer, and if so, would it have been on the window sticker?

mrgreenjeans 12-20-2018 11:25 PM

Usually not seen this way, but could have been put in at the dealership.

More likely though, it may have been part of a package grouping. Do you have a 3 digit code on your white build code sticker by your left rear taillight which begins with an H or an I ?

Such as H56 or I82 ? ( as seen on several of my 944s )

Ashman 12-20-2018 11:54 PM

It has A11 at the front of the list, and I’ve never been able to figure out what that was...

jeff968 12-21-2018 11:43 AM

There are 3 types of options; factory, port, and dealer.

The window sticker was generated at the Port so it would reflect the factory and port installed options. Port options would include floor mats and cell phones.

Dealer installed options would appear in various types of supplemental stickers including "dealer mark-up" due to demand.

I have a friend who has an original sport seat car where the sport seats were robbed from the car while at the dealer. The original window sticker has the sport seat line "whited out" and a new total number hand written at the bottom :)

Ashman 12-21-2018 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by jeff968 (Post 15512384)
There are 3 types of options; factory, port, and dealer.

This is similar to what I'd heard before. So, from this, I would guess that the options sticker was made at the factory, the window sticker was produced at the port, and then the dealer can muck with things (add or subtract) after that.

Thanks for the confirmation.


MAGK944 12-21-2018 12:34 PM

afaik the “window sticker” is a US thing only, other countries don’t have such a thing, therefore it could only be applied when the car reached the US. Also a car could be built for ROW production at the factory but later be fitted with US options. That is why you see some cars in the US with ZZZ chassis numbers but US VIN’s.

jeff968 12-21-2018 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by MAGK944 (Post 15512541)
Also a car could be built for ROW production at the factory but later be fitted with US options. That is why you see some cars in the US with ZZZ chassis numbers but US VIN’s.

Not sure about that.

ALL of the North American 1992 968s produced from September 1991 to January 1992 have the ZZZ VIN on the chassis and the US emissions. Mid January they switch to the laser based chassis VIN which has the matching NA VIN. This is not a random thing for "some cars". It is a straight production line change.

MAGK944 12-21-2018 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by jeff968 (Post 15512563)
Not sure about that.

ALL of the North American 1992 968s produced from September 1991 to January 1992 have the ZZZ VIN on the chassis and the US emissions. Mid January they switch to the laser based chassis VIN which has the matching NA VIN. This is not a random thing for "some cars". It is a straight production line change.

idk about 968’s but two of my 944’s have ZZZ chassis numbers and US AA0 VINS, they are both federalized cars with US spec options. Here’s one of mine and I’ve seen many more like this in the US:


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...73bc15d70.jpeg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...00f31a37e.jpeg




jeff968 12-21-2018 02:42 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e1d98986c0.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4796f5611b.jpg

It is the same with the early 968s. But when they changed they changed. No randomness.

mrgreenjeans 12-21-2018 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Ashman (Post 15511646)
It has A11 at the front of the list, and I’ve never been able to figure out what that was...

This would be a package grouping.

If you are able to access a library or a bookstore with vintage books, you may be able to view or purchase a vintage Kelly Blue book or yellow dealership used car guide from that era. Salesmen used them on their deals and they were issued monthly with revised value info. I have several I acquired from salesmen rather than thrown away and they DO list H52 in the vehicle description as a valued package which commanded more on resale. They list the options included in combination with more common options, in a package group used by the dealer to order from Porsche. The combined package group sometimes gave a price break on those options if combined together.

jeff968 12-21-2018 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by mrgreenjeans (Post 15512975)
This would be a package grouping.

The 968 had them too but they were "P" code packages. No price discounting. Just easier to manage multiple individual options. And they are usually related options. For example, P08 is 691 CD2, 490 Hi-Fi sound speakers, and 494 amps.

Dan Martinic 12-21-2018 06:38 PM

I'm guessing tire + wheel packages were dealer options? I'm told my car's gold BBS rims were a dealer-installed option and I assume would have been on the sticker?

jhowell371 12-21-2018 09:51 PM

Porsche Cars of North America Inc. was Porsche's American importer and distributor for cars, parts and approved ZVW numbered Autobahn accessories. They were responsible for our window stickers. For instance they provided the ZVW numbered air compressors, the early ones were sourced from Canada. European cars got a European sourced compressor.

Ashman 02-06-2019 11:04 PM

Getting back to this. Just in case anyone cares, here is the window sticker I created as a power point. I just printed it on 11x17 paper and had it laminated. It looks great!

Well, that's weird. It won't seem to let me upload a zip file. I guess if anyone wants the template, they can IM me...

OR... Let's try this... I've uploaded it to DropBox. We'll see if this link works for everyone... https://www.dropbox.com/s/wadtb2h2dr...ER_V2.zip?dl=0

Dan Martinic 02-08-2019 12:46 PM

Brake pad wear indicators? I was under the assumption that '86s or older didn't have them. I got this assumption from my buddy's '86 951 which doesn't have the cylindrical parts by the shock towers one per side; my understanding--only recently--is that these pieces on my '88 are for the pad wear sensors.

I didn't even know our washer nozzles are heated


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