Dead 89' 944 Turbo - Advice Needed
#16
Hi Guys, Everyone has been great, thank you for that.
So, it turns out that I spun a bearing and so the car needs an engine.
My shop that preliminarily assessed the car contacted a reputable Porsche specialist who wants $175/hr CAD and he said that an engine rebuild is $20k+
I have another shop that is $75/hr CAD that originally told me not to touch the engine (if I spun a bearing) and that I need to consider changing the engine.
The 89' Turbo with the S package, has the same engine (short block?) as the 86-89 Turbo's for the exception of the K27 turbo, and suspension, LSD, etc?
So technically, the sensible option, since the car isn't a museum piece, but is still valuable is to park it and wait for the right engine to replace mine with and it's more like a $10k option vs. $20k?
Thanks a ton guys.
So, it turns out that I spun a bearing and so the car needs an engine.
My shop that preliminarily assessed the car contacted a reputable Porsche specialist who wants $175/hr CAD and he said that an engine rebuild is $20k+
I have another shop that is $75/hr CAD that originally told me not to touch the engine (if I spun a bearing) and that I need to consider changing the engine.
The 89' Turbo with the S package, has the same engine (short block?) as the 86-89 Turbo's for the exception of the K27 turbo, and suspension, LSD, etc?
So technically, the sensible option, since the car isn't a museum piece, but is still valuable is to park it and wait for the right engine to replace mine with and it's more like a $10k option vs. $20k?
Thanks a ton guys.
#17
Racer
In my opinion without opening it up it hard to tell what the rebuild cost would be. The oil pan can be dropped and the damage and cylinder walls can be inspected.
If you just spun a rod bearing the damage may just be limited to the crankshaft which can be remachined or a new crank installed. I would accept GPS951s offer.
If you just spun a rod bearing the damage may just be limited to the crankshaft which can be remachined or a new crank installed. I would accept GPS951s offer.
#18
Advanced
Hi Guys, Everyone has been great, thank you for that.
So, it turns out that I spun a bearing and so the car needs an engine.
My shop that preliminarily assessed the car contacted a reputable Porsche specialist who wants $175/hr CAD and he said that an engine rebuild is $20k+
I have another shop that is $75/hr CAD that originally told me not to touch the engine (if I spun a bearing) and that I need to consider changing the engine.
The 89' Turbo with the S package, has the same engine (short block?) as the 86-89 Turbo's for the exception of the K27 turbo, and suspension, LSD, etc?
So technically, the sensible option, since the car isn't a museum piece, but is still valuable is to park it and wait for the right engine to replace mine with and it's more like a $10k option vs. $20k?
Thanks a ton guys.
So, it turns out that I spun a bearing and so the car needs an engine.
My shop that preliminarily assessed the car contacted a reputable Porsche specialist who wants $175/hr CAD and he said that an engine rebuild is $20k+
I have another shop that is $75/hr CAD that originally told me not to touch the engine (if I spun a bearing) and that I need to consider changing the engine.
The 89' Turbo with the S package, has the same engine (short block?) as the 86-89 Turbo's for the exception of the K27 turbo, and suspension, LSD, etc?
So technically, the sensible option, since the car isn't a museum piece, but is still valuable is to park it and wait for the right engine to replace mine with and it's more like a $10k option vs. $20k?
Thanks a ton guys.
I'd appreciate if you could share what oil weight/brand/type you've been running.
Last edited by Alex89; 10-04-2018 at 02:51 PM. Reason: Added link
#19
More Information on the car...
The car had the following work performed 7,000km ago:
- Power Steering Belt
- CV Bolts
- Microswitch
- Fluid Flush
- Inspection
- Replaced front bearings
- Replaced timing belt
- Replace H2O pump
- Replaced Seals, tensioners, rollers
- Replaced Engine Mounts
- Replaced timing Gear
- Replaced Steering Shaft
- Replaced Mirror Switch
- Replaced L/R front control arms
- Replaced Sunroof Gear Motors
- Replaced Drive Shaft
- Install Lindsey Racing Chip
- Have original chip as well
- Replaced Horn
- Waste Gate Assembly
- Installed New Shims
- Adjust Backing Plate
- New Koni Shocks
Car has the following options:
030 = Sports Suspension
387 = Sport Seat (Right) electrical, heated
946 = Leather fronts with Leatherette Rear
454 = Auto Speed Control
139 = Seat Heating(Left)
220 = Locking Diff (40% LSD)
533 = Alarm
288 = Headlamp Washer
573 = A/C
340 = Seat Heat (right)
593 = ABS (Bosch)
383 = Sports Seat (Left) Height Adjustments
650 = Electric Openable, Detachable Roof Panel
Paint Code L041
Black on Black - Delivered to Downtown Fine Cars Toronto, Canada.
Car has been painted and now also has stone chips on front half of car. 7/10 paint.
The car had the following work performed 7,000km ago:
- Power Steering Belt
- CV Bolts
- Microswitch
- Fluid Flush
- Inspection
- Replaced front bearings
- Replaced timing belt
- Replace H2O pump
- Replaced Seals, tensioners, rollers
- Replaced Engine Mounts
- Replaced timing Gear
- Replaced Steering Shaft
- Replaced Mirror Switch
- Replaced L/R front control arms
- Replaced Sunroof Gear Motors
- Replaced Drive Shaft
- Install Lindsey Racing Chip
- Have original chip as well
- Replaced Horn
- Waste Gate Assembly
- Installed New Shims
- Adjust Backing Plate
- New Koni Shocks
Car has the following options:
030 = Sports Suspension
387 = Sport Seat (Right) electrical, heated
946 = Leather fronts with Leatherette Rear
454 = Auto Speed Control
139 = Seat Heating(Left)
220 = Locking Diff (40% LSD)
533 = Alarm
288 = Headlamp Washer
573 = A/C
340 = Seat Heat (right)
593 = ABS (Bosch)
383 = Sports Seat (Left) Height Adjustments
650 = Electric Openable, Detachable Roof Panel
Paint Code L041
Black on Black - Delivered to Downtown Fine Cars Toronto, Canada.
Car has been painted and now also has stone chips on front half of car. 7/10 paint.
#20
#22
Sorry to hear about the failed bottom end.
I think the replacement engine you suggest is the right approach. Rebuild and upgrade the turbo and replace all the exhaust hardware while it's out.
Note that the turbo s and the 89 turbo use a unique block and are not the same as those used in the 86,87 and 88 non s engines.
I do have two of these S engines here in Boston, Ma. if needed. One is a complete and fresh engine, the other a short block with good useable bores.
I think the replacement engine you suggest is the right approach. Rebuild and upgrade the turbo and replace all the exhaust hardware while it's out.
Note that the turbo s and the 89 turbo use a unique block and are not the same as those used in the 86,87 and 88 non s engines.
I do have two of these S engines here in Boston, Ma. if needed. One is a complete and fresh engine, the other a short block with good useable bores.
#23
Addict
Rennlist Member
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Turbo S had K26 turbo not K27.
Every 87+ NA/turbo block will fit, NA versions need turbo oil outlet drilled&tapped.
I'd want to keep original or at least turbo S M44/52 block as that's the first thing enthusiastic future buyer will look at.
Every 87+ NA/turbo block will fit, NA versions need turbo oil outlet drilled&tapped.
I'd want to keep original or at least turbo S M44/52 block as that's the first thing enthusiastic future buyer will look at.