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Old 01-14-2019, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Swenny
https://rennlist.com/forums/vindecoder.php
This should give a basic idea of what came with that VIN.
Thanks Sweeny, I did not know about that!
But is there a way to know/check if an engine is original to the car? Or does it just come down to the SN of the engine matching the year of the vehicle to consider it "matching"?
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Originally Posted by lamrith
Thanks Sweeny, I did not know about that!
But is there a way to know/check if an engine is original to the car? Or does it just come down to the SN of the engine matching the year of the vehicle to consider it "matching"?

944 Chassis numbers

All 944 chassis numbers consist of two groups of code letters followed by the vehicle serial No.
Example WPO ZZZ 94 Z D N 4 00001-49999
WPO ZZZ = Europe RoW WPO AAO = USA/Canada
94 = first two digits of model No. standard 944 95 = first two digits of model No. 944 Turbo (951)
Z = Europe RoW O = USA/Canada
D= model year (1983); E=1984 up to 1990 L (later ZL) 1991 ZM, 1992 ZN
N = Neckarsulm (build plant)
4 = last digit of model No. (944) 1 = last digit of model No. (951)
followed by vehicle serial no.

944 Engine Numbers
1983 41D 0001-4999
41D 5001-9999
43D 0001-4999
43D 5001-9999
Serial numbers included expander numbers
A000-A999, B000-B999 and so on to H. 944 Europe RoW manual
944 Europe RoW auto
944 USA, Japan manual
944 USA, Japan auto
1984 41E 00001-20000
41E 20001-30000
43E 00001-20000
43E 20001-30000 944 Europe RoW manual
944 Europe RoW auto
944 USA, Japan, Canada manual
944 USA, Japan, Canada auto
1985 as for 1984; year code = F
serial no. expanded to 60000
1986 41G 00001-20000
41G 20001-30000
43G 00001-60000
43G 60001-90000
44G 0001-00320
45G 0001-20000 944 Europe RoW manual
944 Europe RoW auto
944 USA, Canada, Japan, Australia manual
944 USA, Canada, Japan, Australia auto
944 Turbo Europe RoW
944 Turbo Worldwide
1987 944: as for 1986 with model year code = H
45H 00001-10000
42H 00001-60000
944 turbo All markets
944S All markets
1988 46J 00001-60000
46J 60001-70000
42J 00001-50000
45J 00001-10000 944 Worldwide manual
944 Worldwide auto
944S Worldwide
944 Turbo, Worldwide






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Originally Posted by Swenny
...All 944 chassis numbers consist of two groups of code letters...WPO ZZZ = Europe RoW WPO AAO = USA/Canada...

@Swenny This is not accurate info for chassis numbers, there are many USA/Canada chassis numbers that start WPO ZZZ. I think you mean VIN number not chassis number in which case your info is correct.
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Originally Posted by MAGK944



@Swenny This is not accurate info for chassis numbers, there are many USA/Canada chassis numbers that start WPO ZZZ. I think you mean VIN number not chassis number in which case your info is correct.
I copied and pasted and really didn't read it. Thanks for the clarity.
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Originally Posted by Swenny
I copied and pasted and really didn't read it. Thanks for the clarity.
lol, yes there’s a bunch of missinfornation out there. I just didn’t want US listers thinking they maybe had a Euro spec car
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Originally Posted by MAGK944


lol, yes there’s a bunch of missinfornation out there. I just didn’t want US listers thinking they maybe had a Euro spec car
I'm sure they'll survive the horrible let down of finding out that the 30 year old 944 that they bought wasn't a eurospec. Wait until they see the prices for replacement parts! LOL!

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What is the difference between VIN number and Chassis number?
I am having a hard time following the engine number info.


Here is our car's #'s
VIN: WP0AB94XHN473***
Engine: M44/07 43H07571
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Originally Posted by lamrith
What is the difference between VIN number and Chassis number?
I am having a hard time following the engine number info.


Here is our car's #'s
VIN: WP0AB94XHN473***
Engine: M44/07 43H07571
Chassis number was stamped by the factory under the hood on the firewall adjacent to the battery. VIN number was assigned when the car entered a US port. In ALL cases the first three and last eight digits of the chassis and VIN are the same, it’s just the other digits that sometimes vary.

Your numbers point to one of the 8246 944’s produced for the US market in 1987, the engine is also a 1987 number so is most likely original to the car.
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Thanks MAG!

The parts car engine is M77/07 43H09653 So also a true 87. It also has lower miles to begin with so I think I will have my son rebuild it to put in this car long term.
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What sort of numbers should I be seeing on a compression test on this '87 944? Hoping to do a test in the next few days before I pull and decide what to do with the much lower miles but unknown motor currently sitting in Franky.
Old 01-24-2019, 08:32 AM
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Should be around 150psi. After I had my '87 na's head rebuilt I was getting 180 ish psi! I think the head got skimmed at some point. Ran good tho

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Originally Posted by Clark-88-944
Should be around 150psi. After I had my '87 na's head rebuilt I was getting 180 ish psi! I think the head got skimmed at some point. Ran good tho

Clark
IS that cold or hot, or will it not alter it much?
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We noticed a couple things and I wanted to ask, in case it is due to something a PO did to the car. Hopefully some of you can she light if these are normal and intentional design features, or not working properly.

Horn does not work unless car is "on" meaning key in and in turned on.
The window switch on drivers door that works the passenger window is opposite. push up to go down, down to go up?
The drivers door cannot be locked by hand pushing the lock down. Passenger door can be locked/unlocked manually but not drivers, requires key in door.
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I don't know about your door locks, but the horn is fine and your window switch is upside down (or wired in reverse--I forget).

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As Dan said the switch is incorrectly wired. Switch the connections on the switch itself(that fixed mine). My 924S doors are the same as you described.


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