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Old 01-15-2020, 12:42 PM
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Default Wheels for a non-flared 5 lug car

I am sure this has bene asked a lot, but I am looking for both advice and maybe some pictures.

I am doing a light (budget) restoration on a slightly modded 73 2.0.

The car was converted to five lugs in the early 90's. 930 front suspension, and drilled rotors with brakes from a 911S.
I have the parts to eventually put the 911 type rear parking brakes on the car.

Right now it has 15X7 (55 offset I think) Cookie Cutters with 205-60 tires. The fit OK, don't rub after a very light roll of the rear fender lip.

I would like to go to 16 or 17 wheels, and came across a set of early Boxster 16x6 (50 offset, I think.) with 205-55 tires.

1) Any issues with these wheels?
2) Any pictures of a car with these wheels to give me an idea what it will look like.

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I have 16X6 Fuchs (that were the front wheels on 911 SC's etc) on both my 914's with stock fenders- no clearance issues and lots more choice of tires in 16" sizes. I think the offset will be wrong with those wheels as they were on an ABS car which has totally different offset than our older cars.


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What I have found says ET50.
i thought the fuchs and cookies were ET55, so not much difference.
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Originally Posted by N_Jay
What I have found says ET50.
i thought the fuchs and cookies were ET55, so not much difference.
cookies are early offset, 23.3mm not 55, Fuchs are the same for 7s, wider are I think 12. Plus the 16" Boxster wheels look like crap on a 914. To run the Boxster wheels you will need Adapters, but you can 17" Fuchs style rims, straight bolt on.
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Originally Posted by racerbvd
cookies are early offset, 23.3mm not 55, Fuchs are the same for 7s, wider are I think 12. Plus the 16" Boxster wheels look like crap on a 914. To run the Boxster wheels you will need Adapters, but you can 17" Fuchs style rims, straight bolt on.
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Later in the restoration process, that might be an option.
Right now the funds are going to what is REEQUIRED to get the car on the road.
I found a set of Boxster wheels with new tires at a price less then just putting new tires in the Cookies.
If I did screw up and need adapters, that will add a few dollars to the budget.

Guess since I bought them, I don't need pics. I think they will look OK.
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I like to see period correct wheels on cars. I think the Fuchs wheels look perfect on the 914. Good luck.
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I like to see period correct wheels on cars. I think the Fuchs wheels look perfect on the 914. Good luck.
I don't completely disagree, but there were lots of wheels used back then, Fuchs are the classic "Porsche" wheel.
Someday I might spring for a set that are sized just right for the car, but I won't know that till I do the body and decide if I am flaring or not.

Back in '95 I took a bunch of pictures of the orange 914/8 at the museum, as I loved the gentle flare of the fenders, and at the time hoped to replicate it on my car.
I might still shoot for that. (Would be even cooler if I could do the quad pop-up headlights)
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Originally Posted by skl
I have 16X6 Fuchs (that were the front wheels on 911 SC's etc) on both my 914's with stock fenders- no clearance issues and lots more choice of tires in 16" sizes. I think the offset will be wrong with those wheels as they were on an ABS car which has totally different offset than our older cars.


SKL- will a 15X7 Fuch fir a 74' 914 with standard fenders or will it require a little work on the fenders?
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6" wide with the right offset is tight but will fit in the back- don't think 7" will fit without work on the fenders. That's why I stuck with 16X6 or 15X6 on both 914's. And my '71 may have been made on a Friday or Monday because it isn't even symmetrical in the back being tighter on one side than the other. And it has never had body work or an accident.


(My 6X16's are fronts from 911 SC etc. I also run 15X6 Fuchs that came on my '72 911 targa)
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All 914's are uneven (unless someone rebuilt yours).
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boxster wheels will not fit, have too much of an inset and will rub, you will need an inch spacer to install them under stock fender wells
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Originally Posted by dr914
boxster wheels will not fit, have too much of an inset and will rub, you will need an inch spacer to install them under stock fender wells
Yep, I figured that out after I got them home.
I also noticed that as opposed to what was listed, they are 6x16 and 7x16, with different offsets.
I think the fronts will work with a standard spacer, as they are replacing 7x15 with 6X16.
The rears may be a bit trickier, as I think I will need 1/2 inch to 15 mm spacer.
The problem is I have studs, and will need a bolt on spacer which is easy to find at 1 inch, but hard to find under 1 inch.
The ability to set them in a slight bit from where the 7x15 cookie cutters sit will be an advantage as I could use a tad more clearance at the edge of the fender.
Worse comes to worse, I got a decent price on the tires and can sell the wheels.
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Originally Posted by N_Jay
I am sure this has bene asked a lot, but I am looking for both advice and maybe some pictures.

I am doing a light (budget) restoration on a slightly modded 73 2.0.

The car was converted to five lugs in the early 90's. 930 front suspension, and drilled rotors with brakes from a 911S.
I have the parts to eventually put the 911 type rear parking brakes on the car.

Right now it has 15X7 (55 offset I think) Cookie Cutters with 205-60 tires. The fit OK, don't rub after a very light roll of the rear fender lip.

I would like to go to 16 or 17 wheels, and came across a set of early Boxster 16x6 (50 offset, I think.) with 205-55 tires.

1) Any issues with these wheels?
2) Any pictures of a car with these wheels to give me an idea what it will look like.

Back in the 70’s we used to heat the rear fenders at the body shop. Looked good and was not super expensive. Probably some epa rule now
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Originally Posted by bob bonderant
Back in the 70’s we used to heat the rear fenders at the body shop. Looked good and was not super expensive. Probably some epa rule now
I rolled the edge with a baseball bat back in the day to get a small amount of extra clearance for the 205/60-15 tires on cookie cutters.

Somewhere I have a set of pictures taken of the 914/8 in 1994 at the Porsche Museum, because I wanted to have the fenders gently flared in a similar style.
When I get to the point I have having all the body work done for new paint, I may go that route.

Right now, I just want to find eth cheapest way to get it put together and rolling. I might have to sell the two 16x7 wheels and find two more 16x6 wheels.

So the wheels I have are 6Jx16 ET50 and 7Jx16 ET40
The Cookies are supposedly 15x7 ET23 (Not the later ET55 that I thought they were.

Given this I need a 17mm spacer to center the 16x7, or a 15 to buy me a little extra clearance.
The issue is my studs are not long enough and pulling apart the rear hubs to put in new studs as not in the plan yet.

The 16x6 wheels will center with 27'' spacer which can be the bolt on type and use the existing studs.

Isn't it annoying when you have to spend more to save a little.
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Originally Posted by N_Jay
I rolled the edge with a baseball bat back in the day to get a small amount of extra clearance for the 205/60-15 tires on cookie cutters.

Somewhere I have a set of pictures taken of the 914/8 in 1994 at the Porsche Museum, because I wanted to have the fenders gently flared in a similar style.
When I get to the point I have having all the body work done for new paint, I may go that route.

Right now, I just want to find eth cheapest way to get it put together and rolling. I might have to sell the two 16x7 wheels and find two more 16x6 wheels.

So the wheels I have are 6Jx16 ET50 and 7Jx16 ET40
The Cookies are supposedly 15x7 ET23 (Not the later ET55 that I thought they were.

Given this I need a 17mm spacer to center the 16x7, or a 15 to buy me a little extra clearance.
The issue is my studs are not long enough and pulling apart the rear hubs to put in new studs as not in the plan yet.

The 16x6 wheels will center with 27'' spacer which can be the bolt on type and use the existing studs.

Isn't it annoying when you have to spend more to save a little.
I hear ya, I have cookie cutters with 205s on my 75 . I heated the fenders and pulled the fenders out I will send you pics when I pull the car out of storage. Terry


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