Current 930 Values are these Realistic?
#16
Trucker
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^For sure...specially if you want exclusivity. But if you just want a great 996TT look for the X50 package as that makes them rare and you get the extra power.
The 996GT2 is the best of the breed IMO and the closest to a 930...raw, fast, exclusive, ... My favorite....
The 996GT2 is the best of the breed IMO and the closest to a 930...raw, fast, exclusive, ... My favorite....
#17
Owning a 930 today seems like a very good investment, but I am getting to the point of considering selling and buying a 996 turbo as their prices are coming down to meet the value of a decent 930. I have had my 930 for 22 years and have never even driven a 996T. So give me some feedback as to the desirability of a 996T or the insanity of this concept.
#19
Trucker
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The guys at the 6TT maybe more fresh...but I had one of the early 2001TT in silver. My car had the Bugly front bumperettes. If you get an early '01 you can remove those.
X50 was available in '03...gives you a bit of oomph!
IMHO get a 6TT with as much of the leather option as possible. The brown was a natural leather and it was nice. I ordered mine in black and bare bones and it was plasticky like a Ford Escort. Not nice.
Some of the issues with these cars which I don't think ever changed / was fixed over the model years that I remember:
+ front diff leak (outer and inner seals, if inner seal you had to replace the whole diff
+ rear wing actuator
+ rms leak
+ or TIP leak (although I have heard bullet proof if the car was kept stock power)
+ I also recall early (optional) PCCB rotors had problems.
+ they love rear tires...
+ some leaky racks.
That's all I remember...bullet proof car...
X50 was available in '03...gives you a bit of oomph!
IMHO get a 6TT with as much of the leather option as possible. The brown was a natural leather and it was nice. I ordered mine in black and bare bones and it was plasticky like a Ford Escort. Not nice.
Some of the issues with these cars which I don't think ever changed / was fixed over the model years that I remember:
+ front diff leak (outer and inner seals, if inner seal you had to replace the whole diff
+ rear wing actuator
+ rms leak
+ or TIP leak (although I have heard bullet proof if the car was kept stock power)
+ I also recall early (optional) PCCB rotors had problems.
+ they love rear tires...
+ some leaky racks.
That's all I remember...bullet proof car...
#20
Three Wheelin'
I have one of each and would comment that the 996TT and 930 are very different animals. I daily drive the 996TT most of the year, unless there is snow and salt on the ground. It is a very civilized car - good heat/ac, reliable, reasonably decent ride and a TON of power that's easy to use. The 930 is much more raw, and for me not a useable daily driver. The a/c only works well when it's below 80F, the sport seats aren't all that comfortable when wearing a suit and it runs too hot in traffic. That being said the 930 is like driving a big gokart - you are involved! They're both great and I'm very fortunate to be able to experience both.
#21
Unfortunately I can't afford or should say justify having two turbos. My spouse would write me off as nuts. I tend to keep cars I like for a long time. Had the current 930 for 22 years. It is a hoot to drive and does get the attention. I will go to a local dealer and do some test drives and see where it goes. One issue is owning a Pcar that is appreciating vs one that is not. Also, while working on the 930 is not the easiest thing, I know the car pretty much inside and out as I do all my own wrenching, from engine and tranny rebuild to you name it. Not sure I could be as comfortable with the newer technology. The strong selling point (to my spouse) would be the more comfortable road trips.
I appreciate all the insights and will keep in touch.
I appreciate all the insights and will keep in touch.
#22
Man 22 yrs is a great run. It seems like fate to keep it til death do you part (or however that goes).
996tt is certainly a better car objectively. It has easy, safe, comfortable speed. However easy speed is well........easy (and cheap) these days. I say keep the 930 and get an inexpensive fast modern car as well. Something like an early c6 vette can be had for 20k I think. Maybe you could convince you spouse to get something like that for a daily dirver. Its no 996tt, but it is fast and comfortable and you can keep your 930 hopefully.
996tt is certainly a better car objectively. It has easy, safe, comfortable speed. However easy speed is well........easy (and cheap) these days. I say keep the 930 and get an inexpensive fast modern car as well. Something like an early c6 vette can be had for 20k I think. Maybe you could convince you spouse to get something like that for a daily dirver. Its no 996tt, but it is fast and comfortable and you can keep your 930 hopefully.
#23
Look at the added bonus ....once you trade the wife for the 996T, you can then start to keep Porsche parts in your living room !
#24
Instructor
I believe demographics has a lot to do with the value increases of our cars. Baby Boomers are now between the ages of 50-68 according to The US Census Bureau, at 60 I'm about in the middle of the group. So, I think where I'm at is not uncommon amongst the Boomers.
My kids, for the most part, are grown, my parents have both passed away and am looking forward to retirement. But at my age reality is that I'll be lucky if I live another 25 yrs or so, and after having watched my parents age I also realize that if I'm going to play with cars, which is a passion to many Boomers, I'd better do it now!
I think iconic cars from the sixties, seventies and even the eighties are certainly on the targets of the Boomers. Yes, collector/investors are affecting the market and may inflate the values unreasonably but I think we'll be riding the Boomer wave for a while.
The cars I've bought over the last eight years are iconic to me and were cars that I loved at the time and now. I love driving them and I didn't buy them as an investments, and by driving them I hope others get to enjoy seeing them too.
My kids, for the most part, are grown, my parents have both passed away and am looking forward to retirement. But at my age reality is that I'll be lucky if I live another 25 yrs or so, and after having watched my parents age I also realize that if I'm going to play with cars, which is a passion to many Boomers, I'd better do it now!
I think iconic cars from the sixties, seventies and even the eighties are certainly on the targets of the Boomers. Yes, collector/investors are affecting the market and may inflate the values unreasonably but I think we'll be riding the Boomer wave for a while.
The cars I've bought over the last eight years are iconic to me and were cars that I loved at the time and now. I love driving them and I didn't buy them as an investments, and by driving them I hope others get to enjoy seeing them too.
#25
when i was looking for my car back in 2012, i was finding a LOT of brokers and dealers picking up cars and then jacking the price up 10k. yes, i found where the cars listed far less before they got a hold of them. dealers can sit on the over priced cars as long as they want. then you and i see them listed for these prices and start thinking our car is worth that or more. so we list ours for the same.
several years ago when the job market tanked everyone was trying to unload their $35k 930 for $20k so we saw those prices. now that the job market is better people can actually afford them.
not a lot of theses were made and more and more people are taking them out of their original condition.
ALL porsches will go up in value. some faster than others. i paid $7k for my 77s wide body. drove it 10yrs. it had a bad motor and trnny and i sold it for $8k.
as long as the economy is good, the 930 will prosper.
thank goodness i got mine in time.
several years ago when the job market tanked everyone was trying to unload their $35k 930 for $20k so we saw those prices. now that the job market is better people can actually afford them.
not a lot of theses were made and more and more people are taking them out of their original condition.
ALL porsches will go up in value. some faster than others. i paid $7k for my 77s wide body. drove it 10yrs. it had a bad motor and trnny and i sold it for $8k.
as long as the economy is good, the 930 will prosper.
thank goodness i got mine in time.
#28
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No such thing as a factory 930 Speedster...only a 911 Speedster..normally aspirated. Yes prices are very high. Worth $140k? not sure yet..you can probably find one between $95-115K with that mileage. Hell a few years ago, with 23k miles you could have had it for $55-65K. Beautiful cars but not for everyone. Problem is that with these cars reaching these astronomical prices, they become paperweights in the corner of some collectors garage.